[Eg-oversight-board] Conference budget

Sharp, Chris csharp at georgialibraries.org
Thu Nov 6 15:22:49 EST 2014


+1

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Hyman" <ben.hyman at bc.libraries.coop>
> To: "Chauncey Montgomery" <montgoc1 at oplin.org>
> Cc: eg-oversight-board at list.evergreen-ils.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:13:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Conference budget
> 
> +1
> 
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Chauncey Montgomery <montgoc1 at oplin.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > I vote yes.
> > CM
> > 
> > On 11/06/2014 02:06 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
> >> I will second it.
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Kathy Lussier
> >> <klussier at masslnc.org
> >> <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>    Thank you for all of your work on this budget Buzzy and for
> >>    addressing our questions and comments!
> >> 
> >>    I would like to make a motion to approve the Evergreen 2015
> >>    Conference budget as presented.
> >> 
> >>    Kathy
> >> 
> >>    Kathy Lussier
> >>    Project Coordinator
> >>    Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> >>    (508) 343-0128  <tel:%28508%29%20343-0128>
> >>    klussier at masslnc.org  <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>
> >>    Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> >>    #evergreen IRC: kmlussier
> >> 
> >>    On 11/6/2014 12:56 PM, Buzzy Nielsen wrote:
> >>>    Kathy, Tony from the Conservancy, and I chatted today to
> >>>    address
> >>>    some of your further questions and concerns. Here's a final
> >>>    version of the budget.
> >>> 
> >>>    Cheers!
> >>>    Buzzy
> >>> 
> >>>    ************************************
> >>>    Library Director
> >>>    Hood River County Library District
> >>>    502 State Street
> >>>    Hood River, Oregon 97031
> >>>    541-387-7062 <tel:541-387-7062>
> >>>    http://hoodriverlibrary.org
> >>> 
> >>>    On 11/04/2014 01:23 PM, Buzzy Nielsen wrote:
> >>>>    I'm sorry, I sent two different versions of the budget in my
> >>>>    last
> >>>>    message. These are correct.
> >>>> 
> >>>>    Cheers!
> >>>>    Buzzy
> >>>> 
> >>>>    ************************************
> >>>>    Library Director
> >>>>    Hood River County Library District
> >>>>    502 State Street
> >>>>    Hood River, Oregon 97031
> >>>>    541-387-7062 <tel:541-387-7062>
> >>>>    http://hoodriverlibrary.org
> >>>> 
> >>>>    On 11/04/2014 09:37 AM, Buzzy Nielsen wrote:
> >>>>>    Hi everyone,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>    In regards to your questions:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>     1. Thanks for catching the error in the recording
> >>>>>     calculation.
> >>>>>        I've corrected it in the attached document.
> >>>>>     2. The hotel doesn't have a minimum amount to spend on
> >>>>>     meals,
> >>>>>        but they're pretty insistent on having a lunch. The food
> >>>>>        costs are directly calculated based on attendance, so it
> >>>>>        may
> >>>>>        be higher or lower. This seems like it would be a good
> >>>>>        point
> >>>>>        to bring the SFC into the discussion with the hotel.
> >>>>>     3. I believe that the equipment rental and technology costs
> >>>>>        will be lower than expected, so I've adjusted those line
> >>>>>        items accordingly. I've also slightly adjusted the
> >>>>>        registration fees.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>    New budget attached.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>    Cheers!
> >>>>>    Buzzy
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>    ************************************
> >>>>>    Library Director
> >>>>>    Hood River County Library District
> >>>>>    502 State Street
> >>>>>    Hood River, Oregon 97031
> >>>>>    541-387-7062 <tel:541-387-7062>
> >>>>>    http://hoodriverlibrary.org
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>    On 11/03/2014 01:55 PM, Grace Dunbar wrote:
> >>>>>>    Hi Buzzy,
> >>>>>>    Thanks for sending this along.  Overall it looks pretty
> >>>>>>    good, I
> >>>>>>    can't see anything big that you might have missed.
> >>>>>>    Like Kathy, though, I noticed that the recording fee
> >>>>>>    calculation looks to be off by about $2,500 depending on
> >>>>>>    what
> >>>>>>    is meant by "quantity".
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>    I'm also curious what the food and beverage minimum is for
> >>>>>>    the
> >>>>>>    venue and what the reasoning is for the Friday lunch.  Is
> >>>>>>    it
> >>>>>>    lack of restaurants or trouble meeting the food/beverage
> >>>>>>    minimum?  Do you mind sharing what the food and beverage
> >>>>>>    minimum is?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>    I am concerned that there's a thin margin in the budget.
> >>>>>>     If
> >>>>>>    you get a few less sponsorships or registrations than you
> >>>>>>    expect then you will be in the red.  I'd like to see the
> >>>>>>    conference aim for a $5,000-ish profit from the conference
> >>>>>>    so
> >>>>>>    that in the event of lower turnout or poor sponsorship
> >>>>>>    you'd be
> >>>>>>    looking at a break-even instead of a loss.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>    Thanks!
> >>>>>>    Grace
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>    On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Ben Hyman
> >>>>>>    <ben.hyman at bc.libraries.coop
> >>>>>>    <mailto:ben.hyman at bc.libraries.coop>> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        A belated thanks to Buzzy for pulling the preliminary
> >>>>>>        budget together.
> >>>>>>        Looking good so far - will watch for responses to
> >>>>>>        Kathy's
> >>>>>>        questions.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        Cheers
> >>>>>>        Ben
> >>>>>>        On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Kathy Lussier
> >>>>>>        <klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>>
> >>>>>>        wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        > Hi all,
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > Thanks you for sending the proposed budget along
> >>>>>>        > Buzzy!
> >>>>>>        All, it would be great if we could have an e-mail vote
> >>>>>>        on
> >>>>>>        the budget soon so that the SFC folks can begin
> >>>>>>        finishing
> >>>>>>        up the contract details for the venue.
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > I do have a couple of questions about the budget.
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > In the interest of cutting down costs, particularly
> >>>>>>        > when
> >>>>>>        it comes to the high food costs we see at these
> >>>>>>        conferences, I noticed you added a lunch to the budget
> >>>>>>        for
> >>>>>>        the 2015 conference. We did have a sponsored lunch at
> >>>>>>        the
> >>>>>>        2013 conference in Vancouver, but, otherwise, it isn't
> >>>>>>        something that has been provided at past conferences.
> >>>>>>        Amy
> >>>>>>        and I considered adding one when we were considering a
> >>>>>>        venue that wasn't close to many restaurants, but we
> >>>>>>        luckily
> >>>>>>        ended up at a venue where lunch options were numerous.
> >>>>>>        Are
> >>>>>>        you adding it to the conference because you're in a
> >>>>>>        similar
> >>>>>>        situation where it will be difficult for people to find
> >>>>>>        lunch in a timely manner? If so, I would recommend
> >>>>>>        adding
> >>>>>>        it as another sponsorship opportunity to help defray
> >>>>>>        costs.  You could look at the Vancouver conference's
> >>>>>>        page
> >>>>>>        to get a sense of how much to charge for this
> >>>>>>        sponsorship
> >>>>>>        opportunity -
> >>>>>>        http://eg2013.sitka.bclibraries.ca/sponsors/index.html.
> >>>>>>        It
> >>>>>>        definitely should be higher than a breakfast
> >>>>>>        sponsorship.
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > Do you expect to have a food & beverage minimum in
> >>>>>>        > the
> >>>>>>        contract with the venue? I ask just to see if there is
> >>>>>>        a
> >>>>>>        potential for those food costs to go down if
> >>>>>>        registration
> >>>>>>        ends up being lower than expected. Just to add a data
> >>>>>>        point
> >>>>>>        for the rest of the Board, the registration numbers we
> >>>>>>        saw
> >>>>>>        last year were 189 total registrations,  about 30 of
> >>>>>>        which
> >>>>>>        were one-day registrations for local library staff who
> >>>>>>        couldn't attend the entire three-day conference. When
> >>>>>>        our
> >>>>>>        numbers came in lower than expected, it was difficult
> >>>>>>        to
> >>>>>>        adjust the cost side of the budget because of our food
> >>>>>>        &
> >>>>>>        beverage minimum.
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > The calculation for the recording fee appears to be
> >>>>>>        > off.
> >>>>>>        I see $500 (per day?, per session?) with a quantity of
> >>>>>>        eight, but the total is $1,500.
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > Thanks!
> >>>>>>        > Kathy
> >>>>>>        > Kathy Lussier
> >>>>>>        > Project Coordinator
> >>>>>>        > Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> >>>>>>        > (508) 343-0128 <tel:%28508%29%20343-0128>
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > Twitter:
> >>>>>>        > http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > #evergreen IRC: kmlussier
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > On 10/27/2014 11:21 PM, Buzzy Nielsen wrote:
> >>>>>>        >> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>        >>
> >>>>>>        >> Attached is a draft conference budget (in Excel and
> >>>>>>        OpenDocument formats)for your review and approval. I
> >>>>>>        have
> >>>>>>        tried to keep the registration fees down. I've also
> >>>>>>        tried
> >>>>>>        to underestimate revenue while overestimating costs to
> >>>>>>        help
> >>>>>>        ensure that we do not have overruns.
> >>>>>>        >>
> >>>>>>        >> I'm happy to answer any questions that you have.
> >>>>>>        >>
> >>>>>>        >> Cheers!
> >>>>>>        >> Buzzy Nielsen
> >>>>>>        >>
> >>>>>>        >> ************************************
> >>>>>>        >> Library Director
> >>>>>>        >> Hood River County Library District
> >>>>>>        >> 502 State Street
> >>>>>>        >> Hood River, Oregon 97031
> >>>>>>        >> 541-387-7062 <tel:541-387-7062>
> >>>>>>        >> http://hoodriverlibrary.org
> >>>>>>        >>
> >>>>>>        >>
> >>>>>>        >>
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