<div dir="ltr">I'm going to assume that the implication of Michael's email is that we either change the policy or provide an exemption?<div><br></div><div>-1 to either. </div><div><br></div><div>If Emerald feels that they support too many technologies to list Evergreen as one that they support that's their evaluation and I certainly have no objection. Where Evergreen is as a priority and how they represent themselves is 100% their business. However, it is an Evergreen community web site, Evergreen community policy and expecting recognition of Evergreen in exchange of recognition of a vendor is not unreasonable for us to ask for.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Kathy Lussier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Thank you for the e-mail Darrell. I'm
also copying the Evergreen Oversight Board on this message since
they are the group that approved this policy after considerable
discussion with the community.<br>
<br>
I want to give you some background on the creation of this policy.
After some discussion at an Oversight Board meeting , I sent out
an e-mail to the Evergreen general discussion list last July
asking the community for feedback on a possible policy for the
paid support provider page. You can read the discussion thread at
<a href="http://markmail.org/message/tvitn6sfordu2dao" target="_blank">http://markmail.org/message/tvitn6sfordu2dao</a>.<br>
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There was disagreement on some aspects of the policy, specifically
when it came to the question of how much vetting should occur.
However, there was overwhelming support when it came to the
requirement that providers add a visible link to the project web
site. Although the Board was ultimately the entity that approved
this policy, it did so after open discussion with the community
during which any community member, including vendors, had an
opportunity to raise whatever concerns they might have with the
policy. I believe we ultimately adopted a policy that placed very
few barriers on vendors who wanted to be listed on the project web
site.<br>
<br>
I've heard many good reports on the services Emerald provides, and
I would be happy to see the company listed on the Evergreen
support provider page. I also value the support Emerald has
provided to the conference and the community. However, speaking as
just one of 11 members of the Board, I will continue to support
the requirement that providers listed on that page make some
mention of Evergreen on their own web sites, including a link to
the project web site. It not only shows support for the project,
but also provides guidance for those users who discover your
company from the listing page and want to get more information on
how your services fit in with Evergreen. <br>
<br>
I also do not think this policy is unusual in open source software
communities. Our policy was based on a similar policy from the
Koha community, and I know the PostgreSQL community has similar
requirements.<br>
<br>
I hope Emerald can find somewhere on its site where an Evergreen
link would be appropriate (perhaps libraries can be added as one
of the "industries served"?).<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Kathy<br>
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<pre cols="72">Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
<a href="tel:%28508%29%20343-0128" value="+15083430128" target="_blank">(508) 343-0128</a>
<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>
Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier</a>
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On 9/3/2013 1:27 PM, Darrell Rodgers wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks Kathy.<br>
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<div>I think you're referring to this line below:<br>
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<div>Show support for the Evergreen community by adding a
visible link on their Evergreen offering page to the Evergreen
community web site at <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org" title="http://evergreen-ils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://evergreen-ils.org</a><br>
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<div>As a vendor agnostic technology company, we work with
literally hundreds of different types of technology every
day.</div>
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<div>For this reason, we don't have offering pages dedicated
to individual technologies. (We'd never do anything else if
we did!)<br>
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<div>We do have an ever growing list of companies that we
support with Evergreen as well as their other technologies.
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<div>We've been happy with our continued conference
participation and do plan to continue to support the
conference, foundation and community.<br>
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Please let us know if you need anything else from us to get us
listed. <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Thanks again.<br>
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<div><span name="x"></span>Darrell Rodgers<br>
President<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
<a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1100" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1100</a><br>
Help Desk <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a><span name="x"></span><br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From:
</b>"Kathy Lussier" <a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank"><klussier@masslnc.org></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Michael Peters" <a href="mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net" target="_blank"><mpeters@emeralddata.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">drodgers@emeralddata.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 3, 2013 1:11:58 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: FW: Vendor Listing Submission<br>
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<div>Thanks Michael!<br>
<br>
I hope you enjoyed your long weekend as well. I'm not sure
what happened with the e-mail. I checked the list archives
this morning to make sure I didn't miss anyone, but your
e-mail isn't there either.<br>
<br>
I went to Emerald's web site, but didn't see a link back to
the Evergreen community web site. Is that available?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Kathy<br>
<pre>Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
<a href="tel:%28508%29%20343-0128" value="+15083430128" target="_blank">(508) 343-0128</a>
<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>
Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier</a>
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On 9/3/2013 12:50 PM, Michael Peters wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kathy,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good
afternoon. I hope you enjoyed your long holiday
weekend!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
vendor listing was submitted on 8/23/13. I’m not
sure why you did not receive it, but, this message I’m
forwarding below does confirm that it was submitted on
that date. Thank you for getting on the page as soon
as possible.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">Michael Peters<br>
Senior Systems Analyst<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
Phone: <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1013" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1013</a><br>
Help Desk: <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">www.emeralddata.net</a></span><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Michael Peters [<a href="mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 23, 2013 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org</a>'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Vendor Listing Submission</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style>Emerald Data Networks, Inc.</span></b><span style><br>
Contact: Darrell Rodgers (<a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">drodgers@emeralddata.net</a>) /
<a href="tel:678.302.3000" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000</a></span><br>
<span style>Web: <a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style>There are plenty of IT firms ready
to be your provider. Emerald clients realize they need
more than a provider, they need a trusted technology <em>partner</em>.
Emerald Data Networks is prepared to be your partner
in your endeavor into the Evergreen ILS world.
Emerald Data Networks provides a combined 19 years of
experience with Evergreen ILS and is prepared to be
your partner in technical support, data migrations,
custom feature development, software upgrades,
capacity planning, and more!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Michael
Peters<br>
Senior Systems Analyst<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
Phone: <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1013" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1013</a><br>
Help Desk: <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" value="+16783023000" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">www.emeralddata.net</a></span>
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