<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Thanks for the reply Dan. I do hope we can have ongoing discourse about this.<br></div><div><br></div><div>My primary concern is that we are a vendor agnostic technology company and as such, we don't provide links to any technology companies, sites, etc. from our website.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I know that we are unique in the community in this way.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We do list the names and logos/icons of the technologies that we work with regularly on our site to showcase some of our areas of expertise and we're already in the process of adding the evergreen name and logo to our site as we've been working with it now for many years.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span name="x"></span>Darrell Rodgers<br>President<br>Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>678.302.3000 x1100<br>Help Desk 678.302.3000 x1500<br>http://www.emeralddata.net<span name="x"></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Dan Scott" <dan@coffeecode.net><br><b>To: </b>"Darrell Rodgers" <drodgers@emeralddata.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"eg-oversight-board" <eg-oversight-board@list.evergreen-ils.org>, "Kathy Lussier" <klussier@masslnc.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 9, 2013 11:34:06 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Vendor Listing Submission<br><div><br></div><p dir="ltr">If the primary concern is a potential loss of SEO, use the rel="nofollow" attribute on the link: <a href="https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/96569?hl=en" target="_blank">https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/96569?hl=en</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 9, 2013 11:23 PM, "Darrell Rodgers" <<a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">drodgers@emeralddata.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial"><div>Thanks for the quick response Kathy. </div><div><br></div><div>I must say I'm deeply disappointed that despite the fact that we have been vetted and have the credentials and references, we have been denied.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I had hoped the board would be more focused on trying to include organizations like ours that are wanting to be supportive of the community.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It's been our understanding from many in the community that it's been looking for more ways to engage additional vendors; not exclude them.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps in the future there will be an opportunity for the community to accept organizations that aren't solely focused on subsets of technology.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hopefully, that day will come soon. Thank you for your consideration in this matter.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><span></span>Darrell Rodgers<br>President<br>Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br><a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1100" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1100</a><br>Help Desk <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a><span></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr><div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal">
<b>From: </b>"Kathy Lussier" <<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Darrell Rodgers" <<a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">drodgers@emeralddata.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 9, 2013 3:56:59 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Fwd: Vendor Listing Submission<br><div><br></div>
<div>Hi Darrell,<br>
<br>
I apologize for the delay in responding. I got pulled into a few
different directions after getting your e-mail last week.<br>
<br>
The policy is clear that the community expects a link back to the
community web site in return for being listed on the support
providers page.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Kathy<br>
<pre>Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
<a href="tel:%28508%29%20343-0128" target="_blank">(508) 343-0128</a>
<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>
Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier</a>
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On 9/9/2013 3:40 PM, Darrell Rodgers wrote:<br>
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<div>Kathy, I wanted to follow up on this to make sure you got
it and to find out when I should expect a response. Thanks.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div><span></span>Darrell Rodgers<br>
President<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
<a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1100" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1100</a><br>
Help Desk <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a><span></span><br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From:
</b>"Darrell Rodgers" <a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank"><drodgers@emeralddata.net></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Kathy Lussier" <a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank"><klussier@masslnc.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Evergreen Oversight Board"
<a href="mailto:eg-oversight-board@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank"><eg-oversight-board@list.evergreen-ils.org></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:59:08 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Vendor Listing Submission<br>
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<div>Thanks for the background Kathy. I appreciate all the
info. <br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>I also appreciate all the work you've put into the
vetting of vendors to make sure they are viable and can
deliver for the community. I know there is no question
that we are one of those vendors and likewise that the
intent of the board is not to keep legitimate vendors off
the listing pages. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am also very happy to comply with your request to put
a "mention of Evergreen" on our website, in fact, we've
been planning this for some time now. Thanks for the idea
of a libraries page under industries served, we may do
just that.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'd be completely fine with a page with mention of
Evergreen on there and even include the logo if you like,
but I don't do links because of all the problems they
cause.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As you probably know, websites get rated according to
the links on their sites and broken or downed links count
against your ratings. In an effort to safeguard against
this, we've always had a no links policy, but as I said,
I'm happy to mention and put a logo for the community on
the site.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Will this suffice for the board purposes?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span></span>Darrell Rodgers<br>
President<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
<a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1100" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1100</a><br>
Help Desk <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a><span></span><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<hr>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From:
</b>"Kathy Lussier" <a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank"><klussier@masslnc.org></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Darrell Rodgers"
<a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank"><drodgers@emeralddata.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Michael Peters"
<a href="mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net" target="_blank"><mpeters@emeralddata.net></a>, "Evergreen Oversight
Board" <a href="mailto:eg-oversight-board@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank"><eg-oversight-board@list.evergreen-ils.org></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:44:08 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Vendor Listing Submission<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you for the e-mail
Darrell. I'm also copying the Evergreen Oversight Board
on this message since they are the group that approved
this policy after considerable discussion with the
community.<br>
<br>
I want to give you some background on the creation of
this policy. After some discussion at an Oversight Board
meeting , I sent out an e-mail to the Evergreen general
discussion list last July asking the community for
feedback on a possible policy for the paid support
provider page. You can read the discussion thread at <a href="http://markmail.org/message/tvitn6sfordu2dao" target="_blank">http://markmail.org/message/tvitn6sfordu2dao</a>.<br>
<br>
There was disagreement on some aspects of the policy,
specifically when it came to the question of how much
vetting should occur. However, there was overwhelming
support when it came to the requirement that providers
add a visible link to the project web site. Although the
Board was ultimately the entity that approved this
policy, it did so after open discussion with the
community during which any community member, including
vendors, had an opportunity to raise whatever concerns
they might have with the policy. I believe we ultimately
adopted a policy that placed very few barriers on
vendors who wanted to be listed on the project web site.<br>
<br>
I've heard many good reports on the services Emerald
provides, and I would be happy to see the company listed
on the Evergreen support provider page. I also value the
support Emerald has provided to the conference and the
community. However, speaking as just one of 11 members
of the Board, I will continue to support the requirement
that providers listed on that page make some mention of
Evergreen on their own web sites, including a link to
the project web site. It not only shows support for the
project, but also provides guidance for those users who
discover your company from the listing page and want to
get more information on how your services fit in with
Evergreen. <br>
<br>
I also do not think this policy is unusual in open
source software communities. Our policy was based on a
similar policy from the Koha community, and I know the
PostgreSQL community has similar requirements.<br>
<br>
I hope Emerald can find somewhere on its site where an
Evergreen link would be appropriate (perhaps libraries
can be added as one of the "industries served"?).<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
<pre>Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
<a href="tel:%28508%29%20343-0128" target="_blank">(508) 343-0128</a>
<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>
Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier</a>
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On 9/3/2013 1:27 PM, Darrell Rodgers wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks Kathy.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>I think you're referring to this line below:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Show support for the Evergreen community by
adding a visible link on their Evergreen offering
page to the Evergreen community web site at <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org" title="http://evergreen-ils.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://evergreen-ils.org</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>As a vendor agnostic technology company, we
work with literally hundreds of different types of
technology every day.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For this reason, we don't have offering pages
dedicated to individual technologies. (We'd never
do anything else if we did!)<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We do have an ever growing list of companies
that we support with Evergreen as well as their
other technologies. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We've been happy with our continued conference
participation and do plan to continue to support
the conference, foundation and community.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Please let us know if you need anything else from us
to get us listed. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks again.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span></span>Darrell Rodgers<br>
President<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
<a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1100" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1100</a><br>
Help Desk <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1500" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1500</a><br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a><span></span><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From:
</b>"Kathy Lussier" <a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank"><klussier@masslnc.org></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Michael Peters" <a href="mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net" target="_blank"><mpeters@emeralddata.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">drodgers@emeralddata.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 3, 2013 1:11:58 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: FW: Vendor Listing Submission<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks Michael!<br>
<br>
I hope you enjoyed your long weekend as well. I'm
not sure what happened with the e-mail. I checked
the list archives this morning to make sure I
didn't miss anyone, but your e-mail isn't there
either.<br>
<br>
I went to Emerald's web site, but didn't see a
link back to the Evergreen community web site. Is
that available?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Kathy<br>
<pre>Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
<a href="tel:%28508%29%20343-0128" target="_blank">(508) 343-0128</a>
<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>
Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier</a>
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On 9/3/2013 12:50 PM, Michael Peters wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kathy,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good
afternoon. I hope you enjoyed your long
holiday weekend!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
vendor listing was submitted on 8/23/13.
I’m not sure why you did not receive it,
but, this message I’m forwarding below does
confirm that it was submitted on that date.
Thank you for getting on the page as soon as
possible.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">Michael
Peters<br>
Senior Systems Analyst<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
Phone: <a href="tel:678.302.3000%20x1013" target="_blank">678.302.3000 x1013</a><br>
Help Desk: 678.302.3000 x1500<br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">www.emeralddata.net</a></span><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Michael Peters [<a href="mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">mailto:mpeters@emeralddata.net</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 23, 2013
11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org</a>'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Vendor Listing
Submission</span></p>
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</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="">Emerald Data Networks,
Inc.</span></b><span style=""><br>
Contact: Darrell Rodgers (<a href="mailto:drodgers@emeralddata.net" target="_blank">drodgers@emeralddata.net</a>)
/ 678.302.3000</span><br>
<span style="">Web: <a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">http://www.emeralddata.net</a>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="">There are plenty of IT
firms ready to be your provider. Emerald
clients realize they need more than a
provider, they need a trusted technology <em>partner</em>.
Emerald Data Networks is prepared to be your
partner in your endeavor into the Evergreen
ILS world. Emerald Data Networks provides a
combined 19 years of experience with
Evergreen ILS and is prepared to be your
partner in technical support, data
migrations, custom feature development,
software upgrades, capacity planning, and
more!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Michael Peters<br>
Senior Systems Analyst<br>
Emerald Data Networks, Inc.<br>
Phone: 678.302.3000 x1013<br>
Help Desk: 678.302.3000 x1500<br>
<a href="http://www.emeralddata.net" target="_blank">www.emeralddata.net</a></span>
</p>
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