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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Rogan,<br>
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      Have you noticed previously that the web site was offline? Looking
      at the Internet Archive, they were advertising Evergreen services
      as recently as May, but if they truly are offline and not just
      experiencing a momentary glitch, I think we should take them down
      in the interest of keeping the support provider page up to date. <br>
      <br>
      Either way, I think it's still worthwhile to have the discussion
      of the EOB's role in vetting vendors.<br>
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      Kathy<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kathy Lussier
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      On 8/18/2014 3:06 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">It should be noted that Edusys' website as linked
        to from our vendor listing is also offline.  I believe they are
        no longer offering Evergreen services at all if they even still
        exist.  They had another customer who reached out to me at one
        point and they have now moved to Koha.  </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Grace
          Dunbar <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:gdunbar@esilibrary.com" target="_blank">gdunbar@esilibrary.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Thanks for mentioning the vendor listing,
              Rogan, as I have a piece of business that serendipitously
              feeds into that.
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                The lovely folks in Granville, NC had a very challenging
                time with an Evergreen vendor.  The people at Greenville
                were so upset at the poor service they feel that they
                received that they wrote a letter of complaint.  They
                delivered that to me, as a member of the EOB, and have
                asked that we consider removing this vendor from the
                vendor listing page.</div>
              <div>Please see their letter of complaint, which is
                attached.</div>
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              <div>I know that this is a challenging issue.  We don't
                want to be put in the position of policing vendors or
                getting caught in disputes between vendors and their
                clients.  However, I also feel some responsibility comes
                from even having the vendor page.  The question foremost
                in my mind is whether we should be proactive or reactive
                (or inactive) in this kind of situation.  In other
                words, should we change the vendor listing policy to ask
                for references from live Evergreen sites who are
                serviced by that vendor prior to listing them?  Or
                should we take on the role of possibly removing a vendor
                if it becomes clear they have caused "irreparable" harm
                to a client.  'Irreparable harm' being data loss,
                excessive downtime, or something fairly serious.  Or do
                we see our role in the EOB as not being responsible for
                ensuring that the community is pointing potential
                Evergreen sites at vendors who are capable of doing the
                work - caveat emptor.</div>
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              <div>There are, of course, many sides to this issue.  I
                look forward to the discussion!</div>
              <div>Grace</div>
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              <div>p.s. In the interest of full disclosure, Granville
                contracted with Equinox earlier this year to fix many of
                their lingering issues.  It was a limited term
                consulting contract that is no longer in effect.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:23
                    PM, Rogan Hamby <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      <div dir="ltr">I wanted to chat about the
                        Evergreen vendor listing.  It's been a year
                        since we adopted the current policy and there's
                        been discussion about it a couple of times.
                         I've always said we should wait a year before
                        we entertained any discussion of change and it's
                        been that year now.  One minor thing that I'd
                        like to do is require that we link to the
                        description of Evergreen services on an entry.
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18,
                              2014 at 12:40 PM, Ben Hyman <span
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href="mailto:ben.hyman@bc.libraries.coop" target="_blank">ben.hyman@bc.libraries.coop</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
                                <br>
                                We have an EOB meeting scheduled for
                                this Thursday, the 21st @ 11 Pacific.<br>
                                Please send any agenda items along, and
                                I'll pull things together by the 20th.<br>
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                                All the best<br>
                                Ben<br>
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