<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Kathy and all,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I just went through and read through the thread about participating in this the last time it came up. And I have to say it was disheartening. Has anything been done around the idea Grace raised - to survey people who have attempted to get involved in coding for Evergreen to find out what the impediments were? I think that would be very fruitful....if you can find them. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have a perspective on this topic I'd like to share. I'm working with a couple Evergreen consortia right now and in the process I'm talking with many other consortia on Evergreen (and other ILSs including Koha) and there is a consistent theme that Evergreen development is too slow and that this is beginning to make some consortia question whether Evergreen really makes sense for them. It isn't uncommon for me hear that people are frustrated that it is taking so long to deliver the web client and that other enhancements are being tabled until that is done. And it starts to feel strikingly similar to what it was like with a commercial ILS where requests for enhancements were ignored.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think this is because there so few developers. I know Equinox is focusing their energies on the web client but that shouldn't mean all other development comes to a halt. There should be more human resources involved so that one company focusing on one big component shouldn't halt progress on everything else. I know this same thing happened when KCLS first got involved and was able to monopolize the the limited developer community to focus on their priorities. And I have to say that I personally attempted to bring in more developers to the fold (as part of that KCLS initiative) so that instead of monopolizing the limited resources, the end result would be to expand and enrich the pool of developers. But that turned out to be VERY hard to do. And the people I got interested in development and who tried to get involved...all gave up - discouraged and frustrated.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">So, I'd like to suggest it should be a very high priority to find a better way to attract, on-board, and retain people who would like to get involved in the Evergreen community on the coding level. I don't think waiting on delivery of the web client is an adequate strategy. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Lori</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=</div><div><div>Lori Bowen Ayre // </div><div>Library Technology Consultant / The Galecia Group</div><div><span><span title="Call with Google Voice"><span title="Call with Google Voice">(707) 763-6869</span></span> // </span><a href="mailto:Lori.Ayre@galecia.com" target="_blank">Lori.Ayre@galecia.com</a><br></div><div>Availability: <a href="https://doodle.com/loriayre" target="_blank">https://doodle.com/loriayre</a><span> </span></div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:Lori.Ayre@galecia.com" target="_blank"></a>Specializing in RFID, automated materials handling, </div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">workflow optimization, and Drupal services</span></div><div><div>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Kathy Lussier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:klussier@masslnc.org" target="_blank">klussier@masslnc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Outreachy (formerly Outreach Program for Women) is happening
again. The administrators are asking if there is any interest in
participating from the Evergreen community.</p>
<p>I'm also linking to the EOB thread from the last time this
question was raised -
<a href="http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2016-February/001209.html" target="_blank">http://list.evergreen-ils.org/<wbr>pipermail/eg-oversight-board/<wbr>2016-February/001209.html</a>.</p>
<p>FWIW, I stand by the comments I made in that previous thread.</p>
<p>Kathy<br>
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<pre>Hi Kathy,
The Outreachy program is looking for organizations to participate in
round 13. Do you think Evergreen would be willing to participate again?
The round will open on September 12, and the sooner Evergreen is listed,
the more likely you'll get strong applicants.
Sarah Sharp
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Sarah A Sharp <a href="mailto:sarah@thesharps.us" target="_blank"><sarah@thesharps.us></a> wrote:
> Dear coordinators and mentors,
>
> Thank you for being a part of our outreach program! The next round for
> Outreachy is scheduled to open on September 12, with an application deadline
> of October 17. Internships will run from December 6 to March 6.
>
> If your organization is interested in participating in the next round,
> please update your landing page, and let us know by September 7 if you will
> participate. Organization coordinators and mentors, please coordinate on the
> following:
>
> * Review set up information at
> <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted</a>
> * Secure funding for your org to sponsor at least one intern ($6,500)
> * Update your org's landing page
> * List your project ideas and recruit other mentors
> * Let us know at <a href="mailto:outreachy-admins@gnome.org" target="_blank">outreachy-admins@gnome.org</a> that your org is participating
> * Start spreading the word about your org's internships - no need to wait
> for September 12
>
> We plan on having a twitter chat about Outreachy on Wednesday, September 21,
> to spotlight the organizations that are participating, and allow orgs to
> answer any questions people have. Participation in the chat is optional, but
> if you do want to participate, being able to link to a blog post that
> describes why you're passionate about your project would help us promote
> your project.
>
> The updated resources for the upcoming round are:
>
> * <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2016/DecemberMarch" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy/2016/DecemberMarch</a> - a page with a
> timeline and participating organizations listing.
>
> * <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs</a> and
> <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs/Proposal" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs/<wbr>Proposal</a> - these pages
> have motivation and information for sponsorship; you can use and customize
> the text from the Proposal page to approach companies about sponsorship
> (please do a quick check with Karen, Marina, and myself at
> <a href="mailto:outreachy-admins@gnome.org" target="_blank">outreachy-admins@gnome.org</a> alias first to make sure we coordinate any
> efforts to approach the same company).
>
> * <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted</a> - please review
> this page when you are updating the landing page for your organization.
>
> * <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy#Contracts" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy#Contracts</a> - please make all people who
> volunteer as mentors in your organization aware that they will need to sign
> a contract similar to this to be a mentor in the program. Interns cannot be
> paid until their mentors sign the contract, so it is important that mentors
> sign the contract as soon as the application system opens on September 12.
>
> * <a href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy#Eligibility" target="_blank">https://wiki.gnome.org/<wbr>Outreachy#Eligibility</a> - last year we expanded the
> Outreachy program to include underrepresented people of color
> underrepresented in tech in the U.S. Outreachy continues to be open
> internationally to women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people.
>
> Please contact Karen, Marina, and myself at <a href="mailto:outreachy-admins@gnome.org" target="_blank">outreachy-admins@gnome.org</a> alias
> if you have any questions. We hope you can join us for this round!
>
> Thanks,
> Sarah Sharp
>
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