<div dir="ltr"><div>But it seems the assets can not be transferred to the new Evergreen corporation until it receives non-profit status, which may take some time.<br><br>So the Evergreen assets would transfer to MOBIUS while we await the non-profit status? Or would they remain with SFC?<br><br></div>Ron<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Timothy Spindler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tspindler@cwmars.org" target="_blank">tspindler@cwmars.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In my conversation with Donna, the corporation could be set up quickly (within a week) with the assets transferred to the new corporation. In the meantime, if I understood her correctly, MOBIUS could handle any new contract payments until the non-profit status is established since that can take much longer.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-6822123844787033963gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:left"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.656;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Tim </span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Spindler | Executive Director | C/W MARS</span></p></span></span></span></font></div><font size="2"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.656;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:tspindler@cwmars.org" target="_blank">ts</a></span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:tspindler@cwmars.org" target="_blank">pindler@cwmars.org</a> | <a href="tel:(508)%20755-3323" value="+15087553323" target="_blank">508-755-3323 x120</a></span></p></span></span></span><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.656;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="http://www.cwmars.org/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http://www.cwmars.org</span></a></p></span></span></span><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><span></span></span></span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.656;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Gagnon, Ron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gagnon@noblenet.org" target="_blank">gagnon@noblenet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I agree that #1 is the optimum course of action, and that the SFC can only transfer funds to another non-profit.<br><br></div>But it also sounds like it could take a while for the 501(c)(3) status to work its way through the IRS process. What happens to the assets in the meantime?<br><br></div>Ron<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-6822123844787033963h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Ruth Frasur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:director@hagerstownlibrary.org" target="_blank">director@hagerstownlibrary.or<wbr>g</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Mike's comment was my recollection as well.<div><br></div><div>#1 is the only option apart from transferring everything (including Evergreen TM) to MOBIUS which isn't what my understanding of this move would entail.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Mike Rylander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrylander@gmail.com" target="_blank">mrylander@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks, Tim.<br>
<br>
Just as a note, per the existing SFC agreement, if I recall correctly,<br>
the SFC can only transfer ownership and funds to a 501(c)(3). So the<br>
association routes involving assignment and transfer to such an entity<br>
are not possible. Only plans where a new Evergreen nonprofit with<br>
exempt status, or MOBIUS itself, is the assignee are possible as far<br>
as I can tell.<br>
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Timothy Spindler <<a href="mailto:tspindler@cwmars.org" target="_blank">tspindler@cwmars.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Donna Bacon (Executive Director of MOBIUS) sent options for how we might<br>
> work with MOBIUS to handle the Evergreen project. The following are the<br>
> options for how we might contract with them from their attorney. Scenario 1<br>
> and 4 are the more traditional ways we have talked about. In Scenario 1, we<br>
> move forward forming a non-profit for for the Evergreen Project that would<br>
> then contract with MOBIUS. If we went with their attorney, they word<br>
> incorporate Evergreen in Missouri. We could begin this process and MOBIUS<br>
> could still handle the contracts for the 2019 conference until the Evergreen<br>
> Non-profit is complete. In Scenario 2, the EOB members would sign the<br>
> agreement similarly to what was done with the SFC. There are two other<br>
> scenarios which are variations. Donna is willing to support the board with<br>
> any of these options.<br>
><br>
> I will have this on the agenda for discussion at the next board meeting.<br>
><br>
> FROM MOBIUS' ATTORNEYS:<br>
><br>
> As a follow up to our call on Friday, we want to outline some of Evergreen<br>
> Project’s (“Evergreen Project”) options regarding moving from the Software<br>
> Freedom Conservancy (“SFC”) to MOBIUS for its services, with the target goal<br>
> of transitioning on June 1, 2018. As you know, Evergreen is not currently a<br>
> separate entity and its trademark is owned by SFC and its funds are held by<br>
> SFC in a segregated account under SFC’s name, so any transfer will require<br>
> the cooperation and consent of SFC.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Please note, we have prepared this summary for the benefit and in connection<br>
> with our representation of MOBIUS. Nothing herein creates an<br>
> attorney-client relationship between this firm and the Evergreen Project.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In general, Evergreen’s options are:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Scenario #1- Recommended Approach<br>
><br>
> (1) Form a non-profit entity for Evergreen and apply for tax exemptions;<br>
><br>
> (2) SFC assigns the trademark and transfers any and all assets its holds<br>
> for Evergreen Project (including the deposit account) to the new entity;<br>
><br>
> (3) SFC transfers the funds to an account held in the name of Evergreen<br>
> entity; and<br>
><br>
> (4) The new entity and MOBIUS enter into a contract for MOBIUS to perform<br>
> certain management services.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Scenario #2<br>
><br>
> (1) Evergreen, as an unincorporated association of its members, enters<br>
> into a contract with MOBIUS for MOBIUS to perform certain management<br>
> services (EOB members will need to sign the contract);<br>
><br>
> (2) SFC assigns the trademark to all of the members of Evergreen, as an<br>
> unincorporated association;<br>
><br>
> (3) SFC transfers the funds to an account in the name of Evergreen, as an<br>
> unincorporated association (all EOB members will need to sign<br>
> authorization);<br>
><br>
> (4) Form a non-profit entity for Evergreen and apply for tax exemptions;<br>
><br>
> (5) Assign the MOBIUS contract to the new entity; and<br>
><br>
> (6) Assign the trademark to the new entity (signatures of all members<br>
> will need to be obtained).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Scenario #3<br>
><br>
> (1) Evergreen, as an unincorporated association of its members, enters<br>
> into a contract with MOBIUS for MOBIUS to perform certain management<br>
> services;<br>
><br>
> (2) SFC keeps ownership of the trademark until a new entity is formed<br>
> (SFC will need to consent to any enforcement action, Evergreen will be<br>
> relying on SFC to make any necessary filings to continue the mark, and SFC<br>
> may charge a fee for this);<br>
><br>
> (3) SFC transfers the funds to an account in the name of Evergreen, as an<br>
> unincorporated association (all EOB members will need to sign<br>
> authorization);<br>
><br>
> (4) Form a non-profit entity for Evergreen and apply for tax exemptions;<br>
><br>
> (5) Assign the MOBIUS contract to the new entity; and<br>
><br>
> (6) Assign the trademark to the new entity.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Scenario #4<br>
><br>
> (1) Evergreen, as an unincorporated association of its members, enters<br>
> into a contract with MOBIUS for MOBIUS to perform certain management<br>
> services;<br>
><br>
> (2) SFC transfers the funds to an account in the name of Evergreen, as an<br>
> unincorporated association (all EOB members will need to sign<br>
> authorization);<br>
><br>
> (3) SFC assigns the trademark to all of the members of Evergreen, as an<br>
> unincorporated association; and<br>
><br>
> (4) No new entity is formed.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We recommend forming an entity for Evergreen for a number of reasons, but,<br>
> in particular, it will help protect the members from personal liability for<br>
> the obligations and liabilities of Evergreen Project (protection they do not<br>
> currently have), it will eliminate assignment issues if any member dies,<br>
> dissolves, or has leadership change, it will make obtaining insurance<br>
> policies to cover items like slip and fall accidents at the conference<br>
> easier (the entity can obtain the policy rather than a policy naming all of<br>
> the individual members), and it will make it easier for filing taxes by<br>
> allowing an entity to report taxes rather than passing it through to all the<br>
> members of the unincorporated association. Having Evergreen as its own<br>
> entity will also make trademark administration easier as it will not require<br>
> involving SFC or all of the members, depending on the above scenarios, to<br>
> take enforcement actions to protect the trademark or sign off on filings to<br>
> continue the mark.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In general, forming a Missouri non-profit corporation, for the basic<br>
> documents, will cost approximately $1500 if our firm handles the work. This<br>
> does not include the cost of any accountants or legal fees to obtain tax<br>
> exemptions for the organizations. The actual entity formation can be<br>
> completed in a couple of weeks, though the tax applications take longer.<br>
> Trademark assignment filing fees should be approximately $50, plus $250-500<br>
> in attorneys’ fees to complete the assignment. Note, in the case of<br>
> assigning to the general partners, due to the number of parties involved,<br>
> filing fees and attorneys’ fees will be higher.<br>
><br>
> _________<br>
><br>
> Tim Spindler | Executive Director | C/W MARS<br>
><br>
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