<div dir="ltr">I just dove into the code for a minute to compare what the action-trigger-based (AT) EDI pusher does vs. the EDI attributes version.  Here's what I found:<br><br>In the AT version, a JSON blob is generated by an action trigger template, and the relevant TT2 code is here:<br><br>                # BT & ULS want FTX+LIN for every LI, even if empty<br>                IF ((VENDOR_BT OR VENDOR_ULS) AND ftx_vals.size == 0);<br>                    ftx_vals.unshift('');<br>                END; <br><br>(Note the comment line, preceded by "#")<br><br>Then, that gets passed to the Ruby-based openils-mapper module that generates the FTX message:<br><br>  if value.has_key?('free-text')<br>    freetexts = value['free-text'].is_a?(Enumerable) ? value['free-text'] : [value['free-text']]<br>    freetexts.each { |ftx|<br>      chunked_text = ftx.chunk_and_group(512,5)<br>      chunked_text.each { |data|<br>        mapper.add('FTX', { '4451' => 'LIN', '4453' => 1, 'C108' => { '4440' => data } })<br>      }<br>    }<br>  end<br> <br>So the AT version generates an FTX segment for each lineitem even if blank for B&T.<br><br><div>Here's the EDI attributes version (Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/Utils/EDIWriter.pm, line 271):</div><div><br></div><div>If there are no EDI notes and INCLUDE_EMPTY_LI_NOTE is set, add a note that's just an empty string (just like the A/T version):</div><div><br></div><div>    if (!@notes && $self->{compiled}->{edi_attr}->{INCLUDE_EMPTY_LI_NOTE}) {<br>        # lineitem has no notes.  Add a blank note if needed.<br>        push(@trimmed_notes, '');<br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>Then add the note to the order (Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/Utils/EDIWriter.pm, line 527 in current master):</div><br>    for my $note (@{$li_hash->{notes}}) {<br>        if ($note) {<br>            $edi .= "FTX+LIN+1+$note'\n"<br>        } else {<br>            $edi .= "FTX+LIN+1'\n"<br>        }<br>    }<br><br>This will only run if there is at least one note in the "li_hash" object.  If there's not, that sounds like a bug that needs reporting.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:00 PM John Amundson <<a href="mailto:jamundson@cwmars.org">jamundson@cwmars.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks for the suggestion, Chris.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I confirmed, and we already had INCLUDE_EMPTY_LI_NOTE set. Here is what my test setup for B&T looks like:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><img src="cid:ii_jyhhr5950" alt="image.png" style="margin-right: 0px;"><br></div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-1310997522821075805gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="height:0pt"><td style="border-right:0.5pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><a href="http://www.cwmars.org" target="_blank"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/C1fNrKOLEXFs-jfAIXQIMqbKqVBCJrBceOenfgotAcJE6XtZ2ZeeTYFkyfir63-HfzjX6q5zhBQWiO5RZk2tYnWzJ1_rjAADAH4nCmiuhNJuoG8HZLq7MBW-pAU4R9ScKcCybdVO" style="border: medium none;" width="96" height="72"></a><p></p></td><td style="border-left:0.5pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.9872;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">John Amundson | Library Applications Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.9872;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"><font color="#000000"><a href="mailto:jamundson@cwmars.org" target="_blank">jamundson@cwmars.org</a> | <a href="tel:%28508%29%20755-3323" target="_blank">508-755-3323 x322</a></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.9872;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"><font color="#000000"><a href="https://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank">https://www.cwmars.org</a></font></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><a href="http:///" target="_blank"></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 8:34 AM Chris Sharp <<a href="mailto:csharp@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">csharp@georgialibraries.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>John,</div><div><br></div><div>Can you confirm that your example B&T account has INCLUDE_EMPTY_LI_NOTE set?  From my reading of the EDIWriter.pm code, if that's set, it should work as the action/trigger version does.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps!</div><div><br></div><div>Chris<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:11 AM John Amundson <<a href="mailto:jamundson@cwmars.org" target="_blank">jamundson@cwmars.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thank you for the reply, Tiffany.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">In my testing, the UPC was still attached to the PIA+5 segment in the old version, so perhaps the new one is smarter and doesn't append it unless it's present. In any case, it doesn't seem to be something to worry about because my Midwest Tape setup is similar to yours.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">At least at first I think we will continue sending the GIR segments to B&T. I don't want to rock the boat too much with some of our vendors, so I'll plan to make changes only if needed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Querying our edi_message table, I find when this segment is included in our ORDERS messages, only FTX+LIN+1 is sent. Although I did not verify 100%, this seems to only be for B&T orders. It is not present for other vendors.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I do see more interesting segments in our responses, though, (ORDRSP message type):</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">FTX+LIN++05:8B:28<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">FTX+LIN++400:1B:28<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">etc.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">We get these back from multiple vendors, not just B&T</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">For reference, here is a comparison of the line item portion of an ORDERS message to B&T before and after moving to attributes:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Before:</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">'LIN+752234++9781524702946:EN<br>'PIA+5+9781524702946:EN<br>'IMD+F+BTI+:::Odessa Sea<br>'IMD+F+BPU+:::Penguin Audiobooks<br>'IMD+F+BPD+:::20161115<br>'IMD+F+BPH<br>'QTY+21:1<br><i><u>[GIR Segment]</u></i><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">'FTX+LIN+1</span><br>'PRI+AAB:45<br>'RFF+LI:28047/752234<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>After:</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">'LIN+752249++9781524702946:EN<br>'PIA+5+9781524702946:EN<br>'IMD+F+BTI+:::Odessa Sea<br>'IMD+F+BPU+:::Penguin Audiobooks<br>'IMD+F+BPD+:::20161115<br>'IMD+F+BPH<br>'QTY+21:1<br><i>[GIR Segment]</i><br>'PRI+AAB:45.00<br>'RFF+LI:28052/752249<b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">If you were sending order successfully prior to and after the change without this segment, perhaps the segment is not needed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">And finally, <b>we do have several B&T accounts that do not have a suffix listed</b>. Are you saying that prior to the change to attributes, the responses were landing on the correct account but not after? We haven't had issues with this happening on the old system.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thank you,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">John</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-1310997522821075805gmail-m_-5328734843893036067gmail-m_-7591819783523381333m_5771541914659006077m_9012560766192902022m_1004316030737797267gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="height:0pt"><td style="border-right:0.5pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><a href="http://www.cwmars.org" target="_blank"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/C1fNrKOLEXFs-jfAIXQIMqbKqVBCJrBceOenfgotAcJE6XtZ2ZeeTYFkyfir63-HfzjX6q5zhBQWiO5RZk2tYnWzJ1_rjAADAH4nCmiuhNJuoG8HZLq7MBW-pAU4R9ScKcCybdVO" style="border: medium none;" width="96" height="72"></a><p></p></td><td style="border-left:0.5pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.9872;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">John Amundson | Library Applications Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.9872;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"><font color="#000000"><a href="mailto:jamundson@cwmars.org" target="_blank">jamundson@cwmars.org</a> | <a href="tel:%28508%29%20755-3323" target="_blank">508-755-3323 x322</a></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.9872;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent"><font color="#000000"><a href="https://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank">https://www.cwmars.org</a></font></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><a href="http:///" target="_blank"></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 1:49 PM Tiffany Little <<a href="mailto:tlittle@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tlittle@georgialibraries.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi John,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">We've completely moved over to EDI Attributes, so I'll add my $0.02.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Your testing method is pretty much exactly what I did, by the way. If you can run scripts or have someone willing to do it for you, you can also run <a href="http://edi_order_pusher.pl" target="_blank">edi_order_pusher.pl</a> in testmode and it will just print what the EDI output would be without sending it anywhere.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">For Midwest Tape, I've attached a screenshot of how I have our EDI Attribute set up. With this setup, the UPC is being sent in the PIA+5 segment which is for Product ID. I never heard a peep from Midwest when we did the changeover and they've kept sending everything accurately, so I'm guessing this is fine. My libraries don't get cataloging done from them, though, so YMMV.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">For Baker & Taylor, they're slightly different. I went off script and set up my own EDI Attribute for Baker & Taylor. I don't have any libraries getting vendor cataloging done from B&T so I labeled it as non-enriched accounts, since that's what B&T calls it. So for this profile we're not sending them funds, barcodes, etc. in the GIR segments.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Now I did have a problem with this one, and I found a workaround because I didn't feel like delving that deep in at the time to figure out why it was happening. If you have multiple B&T accounts where some have a suffix and one doesn't (this is B&T's common practice, that your main account doesn't have one but subsequent accounts do) then when the order acknowledgements/invoices would come in they would attach to the wrong B&T EDI account. My hack was basically just to ask B&T's EDI specialists to give that main account a suffix, which apparently has no effect at all on them and they were happy to do. So if all B&T accounts for that library have a suffix, I haven't had any other issues with that at all.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I've also started attempting to map EDI segments to the specific settings in EDI Attributes here: <a href="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:edi_fields" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:edi_fields</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">With our B&T setup, we do send LIN with every title; that corresponds to Acq's line item ID. We don't personally send FTX values; I *think* that might just be for line item notes? Please don't quote me on that, though. I looked both here: <a href="https://service.unece.org/trade/untdid/d01b/trmd/orders_c.htm#0070_X" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://service.unece.org/trade/untdid/d01b/trmd/orders_c.htm#0070_X</a> and through EDIWriter.pm for what FTX values are, and the EDIWriter references FTX when talking about line item notes. If you look through your old ORDERS messages and have FTX values, I'd be interested in what they are.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-1310997522821075805gmail-m_-5328734843893036067gmail-m_-7591819783523381333gmail-m_5771541914659006077gmail-m_9012560766192902022gmail-m_1004316030737797267gmail-m_-610034948415665914gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><font size="1"><br></font><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="94"><col width="530"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:123pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font size="1"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Qvs9YKU3vVCwZnnX6Mwltd9L46cp3uEBQOpLMBHo9iOmxJvPkmGiWdp7mBBbkAZbSJ0tddRjVPYeva8q9dl-wS5aUgLTD_Y_gr1FZDmim1HFNZLECANQQ3QHjV_p34QDmaeKK42k" style="border: medium none;" width="76" height="76"></font></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:9pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Tiffany Little, PINES Services Specialist: Acquisitions</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:9pt"></p>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s).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Using the Action Trigger PO JEDI template for reference, I updated the EDI Attribute sets for the vendors we use to resemble the data included in the template as closely as possible.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Our libraries use three vendors: Ingram, Baker & Taylor, and Midwest Tape.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">To test I created dummy accounts that will create EDI messages but not send them, (nonexistent host). I then compared the output with the EDI output from another PO that used the same vendor and line items but wasn't using attributes. I would then adjust the attribute set again and activate another PO until I got messages that resembled each other.</div></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Ingram's conversion was visually identical. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Midwest Tape was almost identical. For MW Tape, the old template included UPC, but this is not an option with the new attributes. In looking at old messages, it seems this usually resulted in a hanging UP at the end of the ISBN anyway, so I don't know how much this is needed. <b>Anyone using Midwest Tape with EDI Attributes have any trouble by not sending the UPC?</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Baker & Taylor's discrepancy may be a bigger issue. The old template added the following information to each line item:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">FTX+LIN+1<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This is not present when using the Attribute set, nor is it an available choice to add.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">There is a comment in the PO JEDI template that says</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">"BT & ULS want FTX+LIN for every LI, even if empty".</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Anyone using Baker & Taylor with EDI Attributes run into any issues with B&T not accepting orders without the FTX+LIN+1 affixed to each line item?</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thank you!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">John</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-1310997522821075805gmail-m_-5328734843893036067gmail-m_-7591819783523381333gmail-m_5771541914659006077gmail-m_9012560766192902022gmail-m_1004316030737797267gmail-m_-610034948415665914gmail-m_4078596937127757999gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="height:0pt"><td style="border-right:0.5pt solid rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><a href="http://www.cwmars.org" target="_blank"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/C1fNrKOLEXFs-jfAIXQIMqbKqVBCJrBceOenfgotAcJE6XtZ2ZeeTYFkyfir63-HfzjX6q5zhBQWiO5RZk2tYnWzJ1_rjAADAH4nCmiuhNJuoG8HZLq7MBW-pAU4R9ScKcCybdVO" style="border: medium none;" width="96" height="72"></a><p></p></td><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