<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">This is so helpful, thank you! So it sounds like even in the 3+ tier structure, only one level actually dispenses the money. That was my main confusion, I think, was wondering how balances were handled when there was money being spent at multiple levels. Is there any ILS (that anyone knows of) where you *do* spend money directly from multiple tiers?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">This may be a nitpicky question, but when you're selecting the fund to spend from, how do you know "who" it belongs to? So for example if I've got Tier1: Local Money, Tier2: AdultFic, and Tier3: BranchA. What shows in the dropdown menu? Just BranchA? Or would I have to name that Tier3 fund "BranchA Adult Fic"? In which case, what's the point of Tier2? Just for reporting and collecting all funds with "Adult Fic" in them? That definitely seems like something we could replicate with fund tags.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Some of my libraries end up with 150+ funds because they need to see exactly where they're spending from. So like if they've got the division of Local vs State money, branch, and collection, and they've got to have a fund for each of those divisions and they have 5 locations, that racks up pretty quick. So with this kind of many-tier structure, do you also end up with that many funds that you have to scroll through dropdowns for, or does having that structure cut down on the number of funds you have?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thank you for indulging all my questions! This is so interesting to me.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tiffany</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="89"><col width="414"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:123pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt 5pt 5pt 5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:75px;height:75px"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/8c2XlzLbIIC6nDoa4yqQ8MzA0npF4WXpUnhhoK_uTqralZtjqVXRwPgmRep3jGYP6q41Sb0ULXqxX-QppYTC8cQyIfBAdqzLBgqvcQwVczkqqiunlj0KIbvy-R3bp-E0mlhF0A4v" width="75" height="75" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt 5pt 5pt 5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Tiffany Little, PINES Services Specialist: Acquisitions</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">(404) 235-7161 | <a href="mailto:tlittle@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tlittle@georgialibraries.org</a></font></span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:36px;height:36px"><img src="https://lh6.goog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 some of the Admin interfaces, such as permission groups). An example would be the fund source at the top, the second tier being Adult FIC, and the 3rd tier being the individual branch fund, such as Adult FIC Branch1, Adult FIC Branch 2. This structure may be helpful to libraries who need to breakout funding per branch, versus a more centralized workflow. Evergreen is set up to be two tiered with the funding source and then the individual funds. If each library was ordering for themselves, a possible workaround would be to separate funds for each library. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I hope this helps, and I look forward to hearing others' experiences with their legacy ILS Acq modules.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thank You,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Erica</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:23 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-acq <<a href="mailto:evergreen-acq@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-acq@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Good morning!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm hoping that someone out there who has done acquisitions in another ILS other than Evergreen can help me understand this. Someone has asked me if Evergreen has a "three tiered fund structure" and...I really don't know what that means. How are funds handled in other ILSes that might be considered "three tiered"? Are we "two tier" because of the layering of funding source+fund?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thank you!!<br>Tiffany</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="89"><col width="414"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:123pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:medium none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:75px;height:75px"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/8c2XlzLbIIC6nDoa4yqQ8MzA0npF4WXpUnhhoK_uTqralZtjqVXRwPgmRep3jGYP6q41Sb0ULXqxX-QppYTC8cQyIfBAdqzLBgqvcQwVczkqqiunlj0KIbvy-R3bp-E0mlhF0A4v" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" width="75" height="75"></span></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Tiffany Little, PINES Services Specialist: Acquisitions</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(30,67,155);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">(404) 235-7161 | <a href="mailto:tlittle@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tlittle@georgialibraries.org</a></font></span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-left:9pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:medium none;display:inline-block;overflow: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