[Evergreen-catalogers] RDA search formats

Mon Nov 13 08:00:14 EST 2017

+1 - on the need for conjunction between fixed fields and 33x tags

I also like Sarah's idea about using the 347$b for the MP3 vs. Playaway
distinction issue.  That might work.

Best,

Jonathan Furr
Technical Services
Forsyth County Public Library
336.703.3045

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Jennifer Weston <
Jennifer.Weston at davidsoncountync.gov> wrote:

> +1 – I agree that the RDA fields can currently only be used in conjunction
> with codes in 008 and 007/006.  I do think it is great that we are having
> this conversation.  The RDA fields are powerful but they can’t stand on
> their own (yet) because we do find ourselves describing multiple
> content/media/carrier types on the same record sometimes.
>
> Janet asks a question that draws attention to what makes this “hybrid”
> cataloging world so interesting.  I am not aware of a code that identifies
> a MP3 but I do include a digital file characteristic on the 347‡b to add
> MP3 as the audio encoding format.  At least, this is an authorized term
> from RDA 3.19.3.3.  Trying to use a subfield may not be effective or
> efficient (or possible) for filtering but it is there.
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> *Jennifer *Jennifer Weston
> Davidson County Public Library
> Technical Services Manager
> jennifer.weston at davidsoncountync.gov
> (336) 242-2941
>
>
>
> *From:* Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-
> bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] *On Behalf Of *Janet Schrader
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2017 3:50 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Community Catalogers <evergreen-catalogers at list.
> evergreen-ils.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] RDA search formats
>
>
>
> +1.
>
>
>
> These fields can only be used in conjunction with codes in the 008 and
> 007/006 fields.
>
>
>
> While on this topic, I'd like to know if anyone has created a format
> filter for MP3 CD audiobooks. The 007 field code for SMD is the same as
> regular CDs. Is there some other code(s) I could use?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
>
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
>
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>
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> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
> wrote:
>
> I'd actually hesitate at this proposal, since the 33x terms don't
> really make a lot of distinctions that patrons would find helpful, for
> example:
>
> * Large type vs. standard type have the same 33x
> * DVD vs. Blu-ray have the same 33x
> * These fields are all repeatable.  Sometimes those combinations can
> mean that there are multiple parts, sometimes it means that several
> formats are incorporated into a single object.  For example, 336$atext
> and 336$images could mean a picture book, a graphic novel, a book of
> photographs with captions, an archival collection that includes both
> pamphlets and paintings, etc.
>
> I think that having 33x terms in the mix of
> what-fields-cause-which-icons is great.  I don't think that they
> should ever be used without other MARC fields to determine what icons
> display.
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Elaine Hardy
> <ehardy at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> > LC has handy tables that link the RDA terms in the MARC 33x fields to the
> > 007 field codes : 007/01 (for 338), Leader/06 codes (for 336) and 007/00
> > (for 337). See http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/index.html. So,
> for
> > those search filters (and icons) that utilize those 007 codes, if a bib
> > record has the 33x fields, those terms and codes could be used instead.
> >
> > To further specify icons, the 007 field will still need to be used to
> > distinguish formats for videorecordings (007/04)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30045
> >
> > 404.235.7128 <(404)%20235-7128> Office
> > 404.548.4241 <(404)%20548-4241> Cell
> > 404.235.7201 <(404)%20235-7201> FAX
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Rogan Hamby <
> rhamby at equinoxinitiative.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Good morning.
> >>
> >> I've started looking at how we can resolve RDA 336/337/338 tags for
> search
> >> formats.  There has already been community discussion here:
> >>
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1125621
> >>
> >> The good news is that we (the Evergreen 'we') already have that data
> >> pulled into the database so the next step is to use it.
> >>
> >> Before the code is written though I think there are some points for the
> >> larger community.  The big picture questions are - What combinations
> should
> >> map to existing search formats and which might need new ones?  Also, a
> >> logistic question - When new ones are needed where will the icons come
> from?
> >> (I can probably make them if need be.)
> >>
> >> Additionally, a working practice question.  My instinct (and I think
> that
> >> of many) is to say the code should basically check to see if there are
> RDA
> >> values and if so use those and fall back to AACR2.  Are there scenarios
> in
> >> practice when both should be used?  Following that up, if they do exist
> are
> >> these common enough / follow standards to any degree that we should
> worry
> >> about them or are they edge cases?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rogan Hamby
> >>
> >> Data and Project Analyst
> >>
> >> Equinox Open Library Initiative
> >>
> >> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> >>
> >> email:  rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
> >>
> >> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
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