[Evergreen-catalogers] Vox books and Wonderbooks

Tue Aug 20 13:36:30 EDT 2019

I have not seen a Vox book in person. But the primary format, to me, for
the Wonderbook, is the print book. Vox describes their product as an audio
book that lives in a print book and as print books with a built-in audio
reader, so I would also make their primary format book. I don't know,
though, that I would create a new record for them in OCLC or edit an
existing one for a sound recording at this point

J. Elaine Hardy, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
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On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 5:55 PM Janet Schrader <jschrader at cwmars.org> wrote:

> Hi Elaine,
>
> Playaways also started out strong and then sort of disappeared. I believe
> they're coming back now as newer cars no longer have CD players. We're also
> cataloging more MP3 CDs.
>
> Yes, the 'q' in the 006 causes problems as it makes all the Wonderbooks
> cataloged as books into e-books. I've been removing it so at some point
> down the road someone may need to re-insert it, just hope that someone
> isn't me. There should be a way for the filter to make a distinction
> between the code in an 008 field and one in an 006 field. There should also
> be a way to use the 006 field for additional format icons. Or, maybe we're
> looking at this in the wrong way and should be taking advantage of the 3xx
> fields to create the format icons as I thought that was their purpose in
> the first place.
>
> While Wonderbooks are cataloged as books with an audio component, it seems
> Vox books are not as consistent being cataloged as books + audio narration
> and spoken sound recordings. If there was a 347 field with $b audio-enabled
> book, then we could have a format limiter for "Audio-enabled book". That is
> preferable to "Digital Media Player" which is what we use for Playaways.
> While the concept is the same, neither Vox books nor Wonderbooks are the
> same as Playaways. Our icon for Digital Media Player is basically a
> Playaway. I'm not sure where we got it.
> [image: image.png]
>
> I like the example you show for a Wonderbook record. The problem I have
> with it is this field:
>
> 347  audio file ǂb MP3 ǂ2 rda
> I wouldn't be able to include $b MP3 as I want to use that for MP3 CD
> audiobooks. I would make my 347 fields:
>
> 347  audio file ǂ2 rda
>
> 347  ǂb audio-enabled book
>
>
> It would be really great if book and sound recording AND audio-enabled
> book could display.
> I read in some of that documentation in the links you sent that
> multiple 347 fields should be used and that the 347$b is not RDA, including
> it with the $a audio file makes it look like it's from an RDA list of terms.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
> Janet Schrader
>
> Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS
>
> 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606
>
> P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801
>
> ------------------------------
>
> jschrader at cwmars.org  ||  http;//cwmars.org <http://www.cwmars.org/>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:20 PM Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I finally got a chance to see a Wonderbook last week. They look pretty
>> awesome but I understand the library staff where I visited should one to a
>> child and they were totally uninterested! So, we may go to all this trouble
>> and have the format crash and burn.
>>
>> Unfortunately, neither OLAC nor DLC has any guidance for this format yet.
>> I figure that, given Murphy's Law, whatever we decide on to catalog these
>> will end up changing if OLAC issues a white paper as they did for playaways.
>>
>> My thoughts for cataloging, after looking at records in OCLC and OLAC's
>> instructions for Playaways and RDA.
>>
>> I think they need a special icon similar to the one we, and others, have
>> created for Playaways. PINES is : [image: Audio With Player] Audio With
>> Player for playaways. Or if we could do multiple icons: Book, sound
>> recording, electronic resource
>>
>> They aren't a book accompanied by a sound recording according to DLC's
>> Books With Accompanying Materials (
>> https://www.loc.gov/aba/cyac/accompanying.htm) since the audio player is
>> part of the book (see Material that is not recorded in the 300 field).
>>
>> I suggest: Type: a and Form: q This is similar to playaways which are
>> Type: i and Form: q
>>
>> The 006 (which causes so much trouble with icons) : 006  m    bq  h
>>    (with audience specific to the manifestation)
>>
>> The 007s:
>>
>> 007         cs nza|auuuu||
>>
>> 007         sz zunznnnzned
>> Physical description example:
>>
>> 300  1 audio-enabled book (170 pages) ; ǂb black and white illustrations
>> ; ǂc 20 cm
>>
>>
>> And then the 33x and 34x fields:
>>
>> 336  spoken word ǂb spw ǂ2 rdacontent
>>
>> 336  still image ǂb sti ǂ2 rdacontent
>>
>> 336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent
>>
>> 337  audio ǂb s ǂ2 rdamedia
>>
>> 337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia
>>
>> 338  other ǂb sz ǂ2 rdacarrier
>>
>> 338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier
>>
>> 344  digital ǂb non-volatile flash memory ǂ2 rda
>>
>> 347  audio file ǂb MP3 ǂ2 rda
>>
>> Notes on some of the records in OCLC help define the items, and do seem
>> to me to be useful:
>>
>> 500  Audiobook originally released by [publisher].
>>
>> 500  Issued as a Wonderbook, a pre-loaded audiobook player permanently
>> attached to a hardcover book.
>>
>> 500  Powered by a rechargeable battery ; USB charger required for
>> recharging.
>>
>> 500  Audiobook player has 2 modes. Read-Along mode narrates the story.
>> Learning mode asks questions related to the story.
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Elaine Hardy, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>>
>> 2872 Woodcock Blvd., Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341
>>
>> (404) 235-7128 | ehardy at georgialibraries.org
>>
>> (404) 548-4241 | Cell
>>
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>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Janet,
>>>
>>> A number of helpful links can be found at --
>>> https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/3xx/344.html     and
>>> https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/3xx/347.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J. Elaine Hardy, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Georgia Public Library Service
>>>
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>>>
>>> (404) 235-7128 | ehardy at georgialibraries.org
>>>
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>>>
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>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:45 PM Janet Schrader <jschrader at cwmars.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Beth,
>>>>
>>>> I think we may go with spoken recording. I prefer the physical
>>>> description to be "audio enabled book" rather than "+ audio narration" or
>>>> something like that, that I've seen in some records. I'm hoping Jason can
>>>> create a format filter for MP3 CD Audiobook using the 347 field. If that's
>>>> successful then I'd do the same for "Audio Enabled Book", although that's
>>>> probably not an 'authorized' term. I don't have a list of the RDA terms
>>>> used in the 344 and 347 fields. Is one available somewhere other than the
>>>> toolkit? Ideally the Vox and Wonderbooks could be searched using the "all
>>>> books" limiter and the "audio enabled book" limiter.
>>>>
>>>> If Christine can share the icons with me, that would be great.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Janet Schrader
>>>>
>>>> Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS
>>>>
>>>> 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606
>>>>
>>>> P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> jschrader at cwmars.org  ||  http;//cwmars.org <http://www.cwmars.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:10 AM Willis, Beth <willis at noblenet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> NOBLE is cataloging Vox Books.  We have found it difficult to use MARC
>>>>> codes to clearly distinguish among some formats including the Vox books and
>>>>> playaways,  as well as some other. Additionally, as you pointed out, the
>>>>> records are not coded consistently.  So we have decided to use a local
>>>>> field to code the search format and the OPAC icon for these formats.  This
>>>>> method has worked well for us so far.  It helps that Christine Morgan has
>>>>> also created a nice format icon for the Vox books, among others.  She would
>>>>> be happy to share the icons if others are interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Beth
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:40 PM Janet Schrader <jschrader at cwmars.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Catalogers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Always nice to get a puzzle on a Friday afternoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a question about cataloging Vox books and Wonderbooks. These
>>>>>> are books with built in audiobook player attached to a hardcover book.
>>>>>> Because we download records from OCLC we are getting various formats. Some
>>>>>> show as CD audiobook, some as an e-book, and some are cataloged like
>>>>>> Playaways which have the format 'digital media player' in our ILS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the request of one library in our network I've been changing the
>>>>>> format to 'digital media player' for ones they own, Vox books or
>>>>>> Wonder books that other libraries own have a variety of formats. I've
>>>>>> looked at call numbers and shelving locations and these vary from
>>>>>> Multi-media to Picture Book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now to the question. How should these be cataloged in MARC. What goes
>>>>>> into the 006, 007, and 008 fields?  I am trying to avoid e-book as these
>>>>>> are not online resources bu Evergreen seems to pick up the code for
>>>>>> electronic resource in the 006 field and combine it with record type for
>>>>>> print.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do any in this group catalog these?  I would like some consistency (I
>>>>>> know, hobgoblins at all that) and right now it's pointing to audio even
>>>>>> though the book appears to be the primary format. The 300 field also
>>>>>> varies. The Vox books say 'audio enabled book' or describe the book +
>>>>>> 'audio enabled narration' The Wonderbooks actually have '1 Wonderbook' as
>>>>>> we now can use a common term for the description.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way in Evergreen for both 'Book' and 'Digital media
>>>>>> player" to display in the OPAC as formats?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet Schrader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Digital & Catalog Librarian
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