[Evergreen-catalogers] Angular staff client catalog

Thu Sep 19 09:50:29 EDT 2019

I'm copying DIG in on this conversation -- so we can collaborate on the
idea of creating a "list of bugs showing several other admin screens that
are in the process of being Angularized; it would be nice to have that all
in one place as kind of a To Do/Done list."

Our groups meet the same week in October so may we can really build
momentum here.
Thanks again -
Jennifer

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jennifer Weston <
jennifer.weston at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:

> I was thinking the same thing.  Thanks for the list, Tiffany.  I'm on it!
> I have time carved out tomorrow to work on the CWG wiki and will make this
> happen.
> If anyone else has links they want to share for related bugs, please send
> them my way.
> -- Jennifer
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 AM Tiffany Little <
> tlittle at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
>> Maybe having a space on the CWG wiki to keep track of the LP bugs? I keep
>> them tagged in my email, so I know I have several of them (although there
>> may be some that I've missed). In no particular order, I know of:
>>
>>
>>    - Angular staff catalog post-3.3 omnibus
>>    <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1823367> (Fix Released) --
>>    Includes links to several other related bugs for the Angular catalog
>>    - Angular MARC editor pt.1 -- Flat Text Editor
>>    <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1834665> (Fix Released)
>>    - Angular Staff Catalog identifier and publication info
>>    <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670> (Fix Released)
>>    - Angular catalog holdings view suffers from material icon formatting
>>    issue <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1840982>
>>    (pullrequest)
>>    - Angular staff catalog recent searches & search templates
>>    <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1837478> (Fix Released)
>>
>> It would also be nice if there was a page on the wiki somewhere about all
>> the pages that have been, need to be, or are in the process of being
>> converted to Angular, along with their applicable LP#s. I have a list of
>> bugs showing several other admin screens that are in the process of being
>> Angularized; it would be nice to have that all in one place as kind of a To
>> Do/Done list.
>>
>> Tiffany Little, PINES Services Specialist: Acquisitions
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>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:57 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And to keep track of the development!  We could pull together all the
>>> Launchpad bugs, make sure they have consistent tags, and track their
>>> progress!
>>>
>>> I love the idea of having access to the Experimental Catalog in Release
>>> 3.3, but as things stand now it might freak some people out (like me!) if
>>> we don't have an easy way for people to see the very latest version, at
>>> least in screenshots!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:24 AM Terran McCanna <
>>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love that idea - this is a great opportunity to really make a
>>>> difference in how usable and how appealing the catalog is for everyone down
>>>> the line.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terran McCanna
>>>> PINES Program Manager
>>>> Georgia Public Library Service
>>>> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
>>>> Atlanta, GA 30341
>>>> 404-235-7138
>>>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:13 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Jane!  I wish I had found that Launchpad bug yesterday -- it
>>>>> helps a lot, especially the screenshots!    I would love it if we could
>>>>> revisit this again at a meeting, maybe we should do this on a regular basis
>>>>> to keep in touch with the progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:06 AM Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a fan of the experimental staff catalog.  It has some nice
>>>>>> quality-of-life improvements (like the holdings view, which -- as far
>>>>>> as I'm concerned -- takes the best of the XUL and Web client holdings
>>>>>> views).  And I think there will be more and more of those improvements
>>>>>> as the project progresses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Erickson has been adding more and more data to the experimental
>>>>>> catalog lately: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll also say that Bill has been very receptive to feedback from this
>>>>>> group.  Maybe in an upcoming Cataloging Working Group meeting we could
>>>>>> take a look at the very latest version of the experimental catalog and
>>>>>> put together some feedback about what is missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:16 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks, Terran, that's helpful and reassuring.  As proof of
>>>>>> concept, and the way the search elements are displayed and work and all
>>>>>> that, it's fine.  I have no problem with what's there, only what's not
>>>>>> there!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:10 PM Terran McCanna <
>>>>>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I have not had a chance to play with 3.3 or 3.4 yet, but it was my
>>>>>> understanding from Bill's demos earlier this year that he only put enough
>>>>>> content into the initial display so that it could function as a proof of
>>>>>> concept to be sure the core search functions and filters were working
>>>>>> correctly, and that the additional displayed elements were still to be
>>>>>> worked out after that.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> As for the public and staff catalogs matching or not, I could go
>>>>>> either way as long as all parties are presented with what is most useful to
>>>>>> them. Having a single catalog with select elements hidden/displayed for
>>>>>> each audience is easier to maintain over time. I expect that once the new
>>>>>> staff catalog is fleshed out to everyone's satisfaction, it could then be
>>>>>> re-used in the redo of the public catalog, so we would then be back to
>>>>>> having the same experience in the staff and public catalogs.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Terran McCanna
>>>>>> >> PINES Program Manager
>>>>>> >> Georgia Public Library Service
>>>>>> >> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250
>>>>>> >> Atlanta, GA 30341
>>>>>> >> 404-235-7138
>>>>>> >> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:04 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <et at noblenet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> How are people feeling about the Angular staff catalog?  Have you
>>>>>> shown it to library staff?  We have 3.3 on a test server and this morning
>>>>>> we turned on the Experimental Catalog to showed to our catalogers for
>>>>>> feedback.  They were really unhappy with it.  They value having the staff
>>>>>> and patron views of the catalog match, and they want to see the full view
>>>>>> of the bibliographic record whether they are determining whether or not the
>>>>>> record is a match for an item they are inputting, or looking at record they
>>>>>> added from a workform or Z39.50 to spot and correct problems.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The grid only has a few pieces of information from the
>>>>>> bibliographic records that are useful in terms of matching the record to
>>>>>> the item in hand -- the author, the title, the year and the edition
>>>>>> statement, if any.  No format, publisher, description, ISBN, no links to
>>>>>> other formats and editions, no cover image.  I appreciate that they added a
>>>>>> link to View in Catalog, which takes you outside the staff client to the
>>>>>> public catalog, but that seems very cumbersome for something people are
>>>>>> going to have to do for practically every record.  And won't public service
>>>>>> people have all the same problems looking up records for patrons to place
>>>>>> holds?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I understand the need to Angularize this, and appreciate the work
>>>>>> that's gone into it.  There's a lot I like here in terms of the UI, but
>>>>>> with this sparse display of the bib record, it looks like a real step
>>>>>> backward to us.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Elizabeth B. Thomsen
>>>>>> >>> Member Services Manager
>>>>>> >>> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
>>>>>> >>> Danvers, Mass.
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>>>>>> > Elizabeth B. Thomsen
>>>>>> > Member Services Manager
>>>>>> > NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
>>>>>> > Danvers, Mass.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jane Sandberg
>>>>>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>>>>>> Linn-Benton Community College
>>>>>> sandbej at linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
>>>>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Elizabeth B. Thomsen
>>>>> Member Services Manager
>>>>> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
>>>>> Danvers, Mass.
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> Jennifer Weston, MLIS
> Implementation Project Manager
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
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Implementation Project Manager
Equinox Open Library Initiative
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