[Evergreen-catalogers] Item templates
Josh Stompro
stomproj at gsuite.larl.org
Tue Feb 4 15:11:53 EST 2020
Elaine, I just realized I posted the wrong bug link, here is the one that I
filed.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1861732
It looks like the current code that migrates XUL copy templates doesn't
migrate out any copy template entries with a value of "<HACK:KLUDGE:NULL>"
https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default/staff/cat/volcopy/app.js;hb=HEAD#l356
So hopefully that won't be an issue going forward.
Josh
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 1:27 PM Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
wrote:
> We found that HACK:KLUDGE:NULL anywhere, not just stat cats could make the
> holdings template fail.
>
> I am not aware of a bug report concerning using default settings. I
> haven't been able to definitively pin it down.
>
> While that is a lot of total templates, I would hope no one cataloger has
> nearly that many! We took the view that migrating to the web client was a
> good reason to evaluate templates and replace ones that could be improved.
> A number of our libraries had no problems migrating their templates, or
> they just replaced them without asking us for assistance. The ones with
> failed ones were primarily those that had templates dating from the
> beginning of Evergreen. It was not a bad thing that they had to replace
> those
>
>
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> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:14 AM Josh Stompro <stomproj at gsuite.larl.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Elaine, thanks for the info. I started a new bug for the issue that is
>> tripping us up. I really don't want to have to ask our cataloging staff to
>> re-create ~300 copy templates.
>>
>> Bug report at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1691269
>>
>> I found a simple fix that seems like it allows the -1 values to work
>> correctly, we are testing it out in production now.
>>
>> Is there a bug report on the issue of including default values in
>> templates? I'm curious what the javascript console error is when that
>> comes up.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:43 AM Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh,
>>>
>>> I thought there was a bug report about XUL templates failing but could
>>> not find it either. The discussion did not specify not being able to
>>> set values to unset/cleared other than that HACK:KLUDGE:NULLcould make the
>>> template fail. Templates, even those created in the web client can also
>>> fail if you have too many default values set to that default value. FOr
>>> examplea template with circ? set to yes and reference set to no can
>>> fail.
>>>
>>> I have discovered that you can now delete the offending template from
>>> the holdings template creator/editor and then recreate it successfully.
>>> Initially, we had to delete all templates and recreate each one (also
>>> deleting the in the saved preferences under workstation administration).
>>>
>>>
>>> J. Elaine Hardy, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Georgia Public Library Service
>>>
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>>>
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>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 4:27 PM Josh Stompro <stomproj at gsuite.larl.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elaine, we are running into this issue with migrated item templates in
>>>> the web client. Do you know if there is a bug report for this, or a
>>>> discussion anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically about the fact that in the XUL client, you could define
>>>> values to be unset/cleared when a template was created. The template would
>>>> look like this.
>>>>
>>>> "Floating?": {
>>>> "value": "<HACK:KLUDGE:NULL>",
>>>> "field": "floating",
>>>> "type": "attribute"
>>>> },
>>>>
>>>> This would unset the Floating value when the template was applied.
>>>> Those entries are just removed when migrated to the web client format. So
>>>> I'm looking for some discussion about why there is no ability for the web
>>>> client item templates to clear values.
>>>>
>>>> Also, the same sort of thing done for stat cat values worked in the XUL
>>>> client.
>>>>
>>>> "LARL_NWRL_CONSORTIUM : Genre Book": {
>>>> "field": "21",
>>>> "type": "stat_cat",
>>>> "value": "-1"
>>>> },
>>>>
>>>> This would unset the stat cat with id 21 when applied. It looks like
>>>> this does get migrated over, but causes the template to not be able to be
>>>> applied. I haven't had any luck finding a bug report on this. It seems
>>>> like those -1 entries should be cleared out if they are not valid in the
>>>> new format.
>>>>
>>>> All the stat-cats get defined together in the new template json format.
>>>>
>>>> "statcats": {
>>>> "17": 469,
>>>> "18": 475,
>>>> "19": 481,
>>>> "20": 486,
>>>> "21": -1
>>>> },
>>>>
>>>> Here is an example of the old json format and the migrated format.
>>>> https://gist.github.com/stompro/7627c8b47af283eba5e29a22bad60ddd
>>>>
>>>> I feel like I'm just not using the correct search terms to find where
>>>> this has been discussed before, so if anyone can point me in the right
>>>> location I would appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:40 AM Elaine Hardy <
>>>> ehardy at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We found that we had to delete and recreate the XUL templates. They
>>>>> failed to apply. We think because of null values.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 10:28 AM Jonathan T. Furr <
>>>>> Jonathan.Furr at davidsoncountync.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We’re upgrading to 3.3 as well this Fall and I’ve been doing some
>>>>>> testing and am having issues with item templates. These are templates that
>>>>>> are carrying over from the XUL client and we do not use stat cats. The
>>>>>> templates seem to apply the attributes correctly, but it will not save my
>>>>>> work and create the item. If I apply the same item attributes manually,
>>>>>> the item is created without issue. I’m wondering if the issues lies with
>>>>>> using templates that were created and carried over from XUL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan Furr, MLS, NCPLC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ILS Division Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Davidson County Public Library
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 612 South Main Street
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lexington, NC 27292
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 336.242.2941
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.co.davidson.nc.us/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Evergreen-catalogers <
>>>>>> evergreen-catalogers-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Kate
>>>>>> Coleman
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2019 10:07 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Evergreen Community Catalogers <
>>>>>> evergreen-catalogers at list.evergreen-ils.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [Evergreen-catalogers] Item templates
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> We are upgrading to 3.3 soon and I would just like confirmation that
>>>>>> the item template problem has indeed been solved. People are using item
>>>>>> templates successfully all the time? I would love to have hope!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bugs 1788680 and 1772062
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate Coleman
>>>>>> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
>>>>>> Technical Services Specialist
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