<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Jane,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks for the clarification. I thought the searches had to use the boolean search strings and was hoping that wasn't true. I thought the development would put language as a choice in the advanced search drop-down so that patrons could construct searches that way. Doing that would allow users to enter titles and/or authors or subjects to find bilingual or multilingual works. For example a teacher looking for bilingual Chinese and English juvenile fiction.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Janet</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="180"><col width="326"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:102pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt 5pt 5pt 5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bSd7D8g3VXi0D27vqlwdEBAUuPEYzFQNZVljNyCgRnefpl8eEyjF52SOpmhvBVlZ8DfMuAUvg24dRX1CG2tFVlm6VpHVAPOVJ4vho7b3jgZ--7YybCEFu-wJkv-y2Jg1dYKRYcLA" width="151" height="113" style="border:none"></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt 5pt 5pt 5pt"><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Janet Schrader</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">jschrader@cwmars.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> || </span><a href="http://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http;//cwmars.org</span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span><span><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><br></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:26 PM Jane Sandberg <<a href="mailto:sandbej@linnbenton.edu">sandbej@linnbenton.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for your interest in multilingual search, Janet!</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, the UI on the advanced search screen isn't great. I agree that more patrons will be interested in a boolean AND for that field than a boolean OR. If you know the item_lang(spa)-style syntax, it works really well, but that seems like a lot to ask of our patrons! Maybe there should be a launchpad bug to improve the user experience there.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Also, for what it's worth, we found that all the default subfields are a little over generous. We changed the item_lang record attribute to only grab from the Lang fixed field, 041$a, 041$d, and 041$e.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Also, here's the announcement that I sent to the catalogers in our consortium:</div><div><br></div><div>
You can now search for bilingual books in the catalog! For example, here is a list of all the books in LBCC's catalog that<br>
contain both English and Portuguese content:<br>
<a href="https://libcat.linnbenton.edu/eg/opac/results?query=item_lang%28por%29+%26%26+item_lang%28eng%29&qtype=keyword&fi%3Asearch_format=book&locg=7&detail_record_view=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://libcat.linnbenton.edu/eg/opac/results?query=item_lang%28por%29+%26%26+item_lang%28eng%29&qtype=keyword&fi%3Asearch_format=book&locg=7&detail_record_view=1</a><br>
<br>
Previously, Evergreen thought that every book was in one -- and only<br>
one -- language. You could only search for bilingual materials if you<br>
did some really special cataloging work (for example, LBCC has been<br>
manually putting notes in all the records for our multilingual<br>
materials). Now, you should be able to pull in records, and Evergreen<br>
will know *all* the languages that the item is in without any special<br>
cataloging interventions.<br>
<br>
Using this search is a little weird, you have to express the languages<br>
that you're interested in using strings like so: item_lang(eng)<br>
item_lang(spa) -- you can string these together until you have the<br>
exact language combo you're looking for, and then hit search. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps!</div><div><br></div><div> -Jane<br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:07 PM Andrea Buntz Neiman <<a href="mailto:abneiman@equinoxinitiative.org" target="_blank">abneiman@equinoxinitiative.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Janet --<div><br></div><div>I'm on my way out the door but here's the official docs Equinox wrote to accompany this; hope it helps!</div><div><br></div><div>
<a href="http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_multilingual_search_in_evergreen.html" target="_blank">http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_multilingual_search_in_evergreen.html</a>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>ABN</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:04 PM Janet Schrader <<a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank">jschrader@cwmars.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Everyone,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I was asked to test the multilingual searching on our training server, 3.2.4. I see this is a new feature and there's a bug LP# 1733695. I read the specs for the development, but am not getting what it is supposed to do. I can do a search for multiple languages by using the CTRL key to highlight more than one choice. This is a boolean OR search. Is the multilingual search supposed to find records with both languages such as bilingual texts?</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I know I am searching the languages in the 041 field because doing a search for <i>black panther boseman</i> limited to French brings up the English language DVD that is also dubbed and subtitled in French. If I hold down the CTRL key and choose French and Chinese I still get the same two records as we don't have this DVD dubbed or subtitles in Chinese, so the boolean search is French OR Chinese.<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think I'm missing something obvious but don't know what.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Janet</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">PS: At least it isn't those double vision subject headings. 🙂</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_8460037211894487972gmail-m_3153346006839702031gmail-m_-9083342026720620187gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="180"><col width="326"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:102pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bSd7D8g3VXi0D27vqlwdEBAUuPEYzFQNZVljNyCgRnefpl8eEyjF52SOpmhvBVlZ8DfMuAUvg24dRX1CG2tFVlm6VpHVAPOVJ4vho7b3jgZ--7YybCEFu-wJkv-y2Jg1dYKRYcLA" style="border: medium none;" width="151" height="113"></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Janet Schrader</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">jschrader@cwmars.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> || </span><a href="http://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http;//cwmars.org</span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span><span><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><br></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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