<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Janet,</div><div><br></div><div>Very true. For what it's worth, we've been linking to those searches from our Web site to streamline the process for our patrons. For example, check out the link in the "Bilingual Books" box on this page: <a href="http://library.linnbenton.edu/spanish">http://library.linnbenton.edu/spanish</a></div><div><br></div><div> -Jane<br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM Janet Schrader <<a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org">jschrader@cwmars.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Jane,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks for the clarification. I thought the searches had to use the boolean search strings and was hoping that wasn't true. I thought the development would put language as a choice in the advanced search drop-down so that patrons could construct searches that way. Doing that would allow users to enter titles and/or authors or subjects to find bilingual or multilingual works. For example a teacher looking for bilingual Chinese and English juvenile fiction.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Janet</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-5011811922286274345gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="180"><col width="326"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:102pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bSd7D8g3VXi0D27vqlwdEBAUuPEYzFQNZVljNyCgRnefpl8eEyjF52SOpmhvBVlZ8DfMuAUvg24dRX1CG2tFVlm6VpHVAPOVJ4vho7b3jgZ--7YybCEFu-wJkv-y2Jg1dYKRYcLA" style="border: medium none;" width="151" height="113"></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Janet Schrader</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">jschrader@cwmars.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> || </span><a href="http://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http;//cwmars.org</span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span><span><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><br></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:26 PM Jane Sandberg <<a href="mailto:sandbej@linnbenton.edu" target="_blank">sandbej@linnbenton.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for your interest in multilingual search, Janet!</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, the UI on the advanced search screen isn't great. I agree that more patrons will be interested in a boolean AND for that field than a boolean OR. If you know the item_lang(spa)-style syntax, it works really well, but that seems like a lot to ask of our patrons! Maybe there should be a launchpad bug to improve the user experience there.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Also, for what it's worth, we found that all the default subfields are a little over generous. We changed the item_lang record attribute to only grab from the Lang fixed field, 041$a, 041$d, and 041$e.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Also, here's the announcement that I sent to the catalogers in our consortium:</div><div><br></div><div>
You can now search for bilingual books in the catalog! For example, here is a list of all the books in LBCC's catalog that<br>
contain both English and Portuguese content:<br>
<a href="https://libcat.linnbenton.edu/eg/opac/results?query=item_lang%28por%29+%26%26+item_lang%28eng%29&qtype=keyword&fi%3Asearch_format=book&locg=7&detail_record_view=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://libcat.linnbenton.edu/eg/opac/results?query=item_lang%28por%29+%26%26+item_lang%28eng%29&qtype=keyword&fi%3Asearch_format=book&locg=7&detail_record_view=1</a><br>
<br>
Previously, Evergreen thought that every book was in one -- and only<br>
one -- language. You could only search for bilingual materials if you<br>
did some really special cataloging work (for example, LBCC has been<br>
manually putting notes in all the records for our multilingual<br>
materials). Now, you should be able to pull in records, and Evergreen<br>
will know *all* the languages that the item is in without any special<br>
cataloging interventions.<br>
<br>
Using this search is a little weird, you have to express the languages<br>
that you're interested in using strings like so: item_lang(eng)<br>
item_lang(spa) -- you can string these together until you have the<br>
exact language combo you're looking for, and then hit search. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps!</div><div><br></div><div> -Jane<br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:07 PM Andrea Buntz Neiman <<a href="mailto:abneiman@equinoxinitiative.org" target="_blank">abneiman@equinoxinitiative.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Janet --<div><br></div><div>I'm on my way out the door but here's the official docs Equinox wrote to accompany this; hope it helps!</div><div><br></div><div>
<a href="http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_multilingual_search_in_evergreen.html" target="_blank">http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_multilingual_search_in_evergreen.html</a>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>ABN</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:04 PM Janet Schrader <<a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank">jschrader@cwmars.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Everyone,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I was asked to test the multilingual searching on our training server, 3.2.4. I see this is a new feature and there's a bug LP# 1733695. I read the specs for the development, but am not getting what it is supposed to do. I can do a search for multiple languages by using the CTRL key to highlight more than one choice. This is a boolean OR search. Is the multilingual search supposed to find records with both languages such as bilingual texts?</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I know I am searching the languages in the 041 field because doing a search for <i>black panther boseman</i> limited to French brings up the English language DVD that is also dubbed and subtitled in French. If I hold down the CTRL key and choose French and Chinese I still get the same two records as we don't have this DVD dubbed or subtitles in Chinese, so the boolean search is French OR Chinese.<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think I'm missing something obvious but don't know what.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Janet</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">PS: At least it isn't those double vision subject headings. 🙂</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-5011811922286274345gmail-m_8460037211894487972gmail-m_3153346006839702031gmail-m_-9083342026720620187gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="180"><col width="326"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:102pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bSd7D8g3VXi0D27vqlwdEBAUuPEYzFQNZVljNyCgRnefpl8eEyjF52SOpmhvBVlZ8DfMuAUvg24dRX1CG2tFVlm6VpHVAPOVJ4vho7b3jgZ--7YybCEFu-wJkv-y2Jg1dYKRYcLA" style="border: medium none;" width="151" height="113"></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Janet Schrader</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">jschrader@cwmars.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> || </span><a href="http://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http;//cwmars.org</span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span><span><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><br></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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