<div dir="ltr"><div>One thing I like about it is the search screen...it combines the elements of the basic search (particularly the formats built on various parts of the MARC record) with the filters from the Advanced Search, based on the fixed fields. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm glad to know that the search results are still a work in progress.</div><div><br></div><div>Mary<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jennifer Weston <<a href="mailto:jennifer.weston@equinoxinitiative.org">jennifer.weston@equinoxinitiative.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I'm copying DIG in on this conversation -- so we can collaborate on the idea of creating a "list of bugs showing several other admin screens that are in the process of being Angularized; it would be nice to have that all in one place as kind of a To Do/Done list."</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Our groups meet the same week in October so may we can really build momentum here.</div><div>Thanks again -</div><div>Jennifer</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jennifer Weston <<a href="mailto:jennifer.weston@equinoxinitiative.org" target="_blank">jennifer.weston@equinoxinitiative.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for the list, Tiffany. I'm on it! I have time carved out tomorrow to work on the CWG wiki and will make this happen.<div>If anyone else has links they want to share for related bugs, please send them my way.</div><div>-- Jennifer</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 AM Tiffany Little <<a href="mailto:tlittle@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tlittle@georgialibraries.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Maybe having a space on the CWG wiki to keep track of the LP bugs? I keep them tagged in my email, so I know I have several of them (although there may be some that I've missed). In no particular order, I know of:</div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><ul><li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1823367" target="_blank">Angular staff catalog post-3.3 omnibus</a> (Fix Released) -- Includes links to several other related bugs for the Angular catalog</li><li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1834665" target="_blank">Angular MARC editor pt.1 -- Flat Text Editor</a> (Fix Released)</li><li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670" target="_blank">Angular Staff Catalog identifier and publication info</a> (Fix Released)</li><li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1840982" target="_blank">Angular catalog holdings view suffers from material icon formatting issue</a> (pullrequest)</li><li><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1837478" target="_blank">Angular staff catalog recent searches & search templates</a> (Fix Released)</li></ul><div>It would also be nice if there was a page on the wiki somewhere about all the pages that have been, need to be, or are in the process of being converted to Angular, along with their applicable LP#s. I have a list of bugs showing several other admin screens that are in the process of being Angularized; it would be nice to have that all in one place as kind of a To Do/Done list.</div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_2017524607718578118gmail-m_3346514273502053497gmail-m_-427717950150120377gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><font size="1"><br></font><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="94"><col width="530"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:123pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font size="1"><img 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We could pull together all the Launchpad bugs, make sure they have consistent tags, and track their progress! </div><div><br></div><div>I love the idea of having access to the Experimental Catalog in Release 3.3, but as things stand now it might freak some people out (like me!) if we don't have an easy way for people to see the very latest version, at least in screenshots!</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:24 AM Terran McCanna <<a href="mailto:tmccanna@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tmccanna@georgialibraries.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I love that idea - this is a great opportunity to really make a difference in how usable and how appealing the catalog is for everyone down the line.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="auto">Terran McCanna<br>PINES Program Manager<br>Georgia Public Library Service<br>2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250<br>Atlanta, GA 30341<br>404-235-7138<br><a href="mailto:tmccanna@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tmccanna@georgialibraries.org</a></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:13 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth <<a href="mailto:et@noblenet.org" target="_blank">et@noblenet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Jane! I wish I had found that Launchpad bug yesterday -- it helps a lot, especially the screenshots! I would love it if we could revisit this again at a meeting, maybe we should do this on a regular basis to keep in touch with the progress. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:06 AM Jane Sandberg <<a href="mailto:sandbej@linnbenton.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sandbej@linnbenton.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm a fan of the experimental staff catalog. It has some nice<br>
quality-of-life improvements (like the holdings view, which -- as far<br>
as I'm concerned -- takes the best of the XUL and Web client holdings<br>
views). And I think there will be more and more of those improvements<br>
as the project progresses.<br>
<br>
Bill Erickson has been adding more and more data to the experimental<br>
catalog lately: <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1839670</a><br>
<br>
I'll also say that Bill has been very receptive to feedback from this<br>
group. Maybe in an upcoming Cataloging Working Group meeting we could<br>
take a look at the very latest version of the experimental catalog and<br>
put together some feedback about what is missing.<br>
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> Thanks, Terran, that's helpful and reassuring. As proof of concept, and the way the search elements are displayed and work and all that, it's fine. I have no problem with what's there, only what's not there!<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:10 PM Terran McCanna <<a href="mailto:tmccanna@georgialibraries.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">tmccanna@georgialibraries.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I have not had a chance to play with 3.3 or 3.4 yet, but it was my understanding from Bill's demos earlier this year that he only put enough content into the initial display so that it could function as a proof of concept to be sure the core search functions and filters were working correctly, and that the additional displayed elements were still to be worked out after that.<br>
>><br>
>> As for the public and staff catalogs matching or not, I could go either way as long as all parties are presented with what is most useful to them. Having a single catalog with select elements hidden/displayed for each audience is easier to maintain over time. I expect that once the new staff catalog is fleshed out to everyone's satisfaction, it could then be re-used in the redo of the public catalog, so we would then be back to having the same experience in the staff and public catalogs.<br>
>><br>
>> Terran McCanna<br>
>> PINES Program Manager<br>
>> Georgia Public Library Service<br>
>> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250<br>
>> Atlanta, GA 30341<br>
>> 404-235-7138<br>
>> <a href="mailto:tmccanna@georgialibraries.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">tmccanna@georgialibraries.org</a><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:04 PM Thomsen, Elizabeth <<a href="mailto:et@noblenet.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">et@noblenet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> How are people feeling about the Angular staff catalog? Have you shown it to library staff? We have 3.3 on a test server and this morning we turned on the Experimental Catalog to showed to our catalogers for feedback. They were really unhappy with it. They value having the staff and patron views of the catalog match, and they want to see the full view of the bibliographic record whether they are determining whether or not the record is a match for an item they are inputting, or looking at record they added from a workform or Z39.50 to spot and correct problems.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The grid only has a few pieces of information from the bibliographic records that are useful in terms of matching the record to the item in hand -- the author, the title, the year and the edition statement, if any. No format, publisher, description, ISBN, no links to other formats and editions, no cover image. I appreciate that they added a link to View in Catalog, which takes you outside the staff client to the public catalog, but that seems very cumbersome for something people are going to have to do for practically every record. And won't public service people have all the same problems looking up records for patrons to place holds?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I understand the need to Angularize this, and appreciate the work that's gone into it. There's a lot I like here in terms of the UI, but with this sparse display of the bib record, it looks like a real step backward to us.<br>
>>><br>
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