<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>There's actually a way to manage this with configuration, and no need to modify cataloging. One could create a separate attribute definition (an Evergreen thing) specifically for subtitles, just like the item_lang definition but with different subfields. You'd gend up with a separate subtitle filter.</div><div><br></div><div>That there's only one filter for language is not a requirement in Evergreen, but just how the current baseline configuration happens to be based on the request at the time. The multi-value attribute feature was specifically designed as infrastructure so you could do things like this.</div><div><br></div><div>HTH,</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--<br>Mike Rylander<br> | Executive Director<br> | Equinox Open Library Initiative<br> | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)<br> | email: <a href="mailto:miker@equinoxinitiative.org" target="_blank">miker@equinoxinitiative.org</a><br> | web: <a href="http://equinoxinitiative.org" target="_blank">http://equinoxinitiative.org</a></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:16 PM Elaine Hardy <<a href="mailto:ehardy@georgialibraries.org">ehardy@georgialibraries.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">A core principle in creating Evergreen was that an ILS should never force you to change policies, including cataloging policies. Rather, the ILS should adapt for those policies. So I am never happy when I hear that correct cataloging has to be changed in order to conform to something Evergreen does. Especially something like this -- when supplying more information to help user discovery is actually hindering discover.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">My gut reaction is to not remove anything that is correct and useful in a record. 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class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Everyone,<br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">After Jennifer comments at this weeks EG Catalogers webinar I would be remiss if I didn't have a Friday email this week. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A few weeks ago CWMARS added some new languages to our list of language limiters. When doing that, we also added more 041 subfields to this record attribute. I wanted to include $j for video recording subtitles. We included $h, language code of original work. Patrons and staff are fine with the subtitles but we ran into complaints about the original language. Now searches for works in French or Persian are retrieving English translations of these works, frustrating patrons.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This weeks question is, should we remove 041 $h so the language limiter picks up only works in the searched language? I thought I had an email somewhere about the best codes to keep in 041 for the language filter as some were "too aggressive" such as including the codes for language of intermediate translations ($k) or language of table of contents ($f). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div><span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks,</span></span></div><div><span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Janet</span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:medium none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="180"><col width="326"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:102pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bSd7D8g3VXi0D27vqlwdEBAUuPEYzFQNZVljNyCgRnefpl8eEyjF52SOpmhvBVlZ8DfMuAUvg24dRX1CG2tFVlm6VpHVAPOVJ4vho7b3jgZ--7YybCEFu-wJkv-y2Jg1dYKRYcLA" style="border: medium none;" width="151" height="113"></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Janet Schrader</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></p><hr><p></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="mailto:jschrader@cwmars.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">jschrader@cwmars.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> || </span><a href="http://www.cwmars.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Proxima Nova";color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http;//cwmars.org</span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span><span><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><br></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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