<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Kate,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">For what it's worth, I looked at the same title in our catalog and it looks the same as yours. I don't know the answer, but you're not alone at least.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tiffany</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="89"><col width="414"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:123pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt 5pt 5pt 5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:75px;height:75px"><img 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Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry everyone, that was an incomplete screenshot. Attaching a better one. <div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><img src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4y44qSWrBhGjKs9a3JDgm3D0kulOrUMrSYxOtB-3WrXdtE67SX9fTIBchZv3QMgrB-59UFJ71M"><br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:41 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry, wrong listserv. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><img width="83" height="83" style="width: 0.8645in; height: 0.8645in;" align="left" hspace="12"><u></u><b><span style="color:rgb(22,105,122)">Elizabeth
Davis</span></b><b> </b>(she/her), <b><i><span style="color:rgb(22,105,122)">Support & Project Management Specialist</span></i></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(22,105,122)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(51,102,204)">Pennsylvania Integrated Library System
</span></b><b><span style="color:rgb(68,114,196)">(PaILS) | SPARK</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(51,102,204)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,204)">(717) 256-1627</span> |
<a href="mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</span></a> <br>
<a href="https://support.sparkpa.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">support.sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:rgb(51,102,204)"> |
</span><a href="mailto:support@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">support@sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:rgb(51,102,204)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-catalogers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Elizabeth Davis <<a href="mailto:elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org" target="_blank">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Evergreen-catalogers] FW: 245 display<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Everyone, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just wanted to share this post from the Evergreen Cataloging listerv. Does anyone use the $n and $p in their records? I didn’t see it in the sample title that Kate shared.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks! <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><img width="83" height="83" style="width: 0.8645in; height: 0.8645in;" align="left" hspace="12"><u></u><b><span style="color:rgb(22,105,122)">Elizabeth
Davis</span> </b>(she/her), <b><i><span style="color:rgb(22,105,122)">Support & Project Management Specialist</span></i></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(22,105,122)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(51,102,204)">Pennsylvania Integrated Library System
</span><span style="color:rgb(68,114,196)">(PaILS) | SPARK</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(51,102,204)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,204)">(717) 256-1627</span> |
<a href="mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</span></a> <br>
<a href="https://support.sparkpa.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">support.sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:rgb(51,102,204)"> |
</span><a href="mailto:support@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">support@sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:rgb(51,102,204)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Coleman via Evergreen-catalogers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Community Catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kate Coleman <<a href="mailto:kcoleman@jeffcolib.org" target="_blank">kcoleman@jeffcolib.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Evergreen-catalogers] 245 display<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I originally sent this to the Evergreen general listserv last week because I thought the answers might get code-heavy, but I just need to know if any other systems experience this. I got crickets from that list, unfortunately. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have a big issue with the way the <span>245</span> displays when an .$n and ,$p field are in use. It's even worse when a :$b is needed as well, like in the attached example. The lack of punctuation and field order make
the title nearly unreadable. An example is attached. Our support vendor says "Evergreen displays the <span>245</span> title as instructed by mods32 and LoC. <a href="https://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html#title" target="_blank">https://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html#title</a>" <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>This seems like something that other Evergreen users would have complained about before, so I'm wondering if other Evergreeners have come up with a workaround? <u></u><u></u></p>
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