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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I did some digging and our record on that title didn’t have $n or $p and when I added them, they displayed wonky like your screenshot. I did find a record that had 245 $n and $p. I added a :$bTesting and this is how it displays:
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Davis</span></b><b> </b>(she/her), <b><i><span style="color:#16697A">Support & Project Management Specialist</span></i></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#16697A"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#3366CC">Pennsylvania Integrated Library System
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#3366CC">(717) 256-1627</span> |
<a href="mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</span></a> <br>
<a href="https://support.sparkpa.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">support.sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:#3366CC"> |
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Evergreen-catalogers <evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tiffany Little via Evergreen-catalogers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Community Catalogers <evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tiffany Little <tlittle@georgialibraries.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] FW: 245 display<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Hi Kate,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">For what it's worth, I looked at the same title in our catalog and it looks the same as yours. I don't know the answer, but you're not alone at least.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Tiffany<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1E439B">Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1E439B">2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:48 AM Kate Coleman via Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry everyone, that was an incomplete screenshot. Attaching a better one. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:41 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sorry, wrong listserv.
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Davis</span> </b>(she/her), <b><i><span style="color:#16697A">Support & Project Management Specialist</span></i></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#16697A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#3366CC">Pennsylvania Integrated Library System
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<span style="color:#3366CC">(717) 256-1627</span> | <a href="mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#0563C1">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</span></a> <br>
<a href="https://support.sparkpa.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">support.sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:#3366CC"> |
</span><a href="mailto:support@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">support@sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:#3366CC"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-catalogers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">
evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Elizabeth Davis <<a href="mailto:elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org" target="_blank">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Evergreen-catalogers] FW: 245 display<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello Everyone,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Just wanted to share this post from the Evergreen Cataloging listerv. Does anyone use the $n and $p in their records? I didn’t see it in the sample title that Kate shared.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks!
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<span style="color:#3366CC">(717) 256-1627</span> | <a href="mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#0563C1">elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org</span></a> <br>
<a href="https://support.sparkpa.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">support.sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:#3366CC"> |
</span><a href="mailto:support@sparkpa.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">support@sparkpa.org</span></a><span style="color:#3366CC"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Evergreen-catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers-bounces@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Coleman via Evergreen-catalogers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Community Catalogers <<a href="mailto:evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-catalogers@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kate Coleman <<a href="mailto:kcoleman@jeffcolib.org" target="_blank">kcoleman@jeffcolib.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Evergreen-catalogers] 245 display<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I originally sent this to the Evergreen general listserv last week because I thought the answers might get code-heavy, but I just need to know if any other systems experience this.
I got crickets from that list, unfortunately. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have a big issue with the way the 245 displays when an .$n and ,$p field are in use. It's even worse when a :$b is needed as well, like in the attached example. The lack of punctuation
and field order make the title nearly unreadable. An example is attached. Our support vendor says "Evergreen displays the 245 title as instructed by mods32 and LoC. <a href="https://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html#title" target="_blank">https://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html#title</a>" <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>This seems like something that other Evergreen users would have complained about before, so I'm wondering if other Evergreeners have come up with a workaround? <o:p></o:p></p>
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