[Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client

Tue May 18 14:53:12 EDT 2021

+1 to that checkbox!

Clare Irwin

Catalogue / Computer Technician

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On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 2:50 PM Simone Rauscher <srauscher at grimsby.ca>
wrote:

> Correction: it was page 91 – 102 - so about 550 out of 5342 bibs were
> what I actually had requested via the filter (50 results per page)
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> Simone Rauscher
> Cataloguing and Collections Coordinator
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> srauscher at grimsby.ca
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> 905-309-2063
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> *From:* Evergreen-general <
> evergreen-general-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Simone
> Rauscher
> *Sent:* May 18, 2021 2:48 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general at list.evergreen-ils.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client
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> That’s great Millissa, let me know how you do, would definitely add heat
> to that bug.
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> And yes thanks to Janet and Elaine for that context – that is probably why
> I am getting all those random results - it’s just odd that it pulls up the
> bibs with no holdings when I’m applying a copy-specific filter on the
> search. You’d think that would eliminate those bibs from consideration as
> it would have nothing to latch on to.
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> Some more context:
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> I did a little more diving into my French search, of which I had retrieved
> 5342 results – I went right to end of my results pages and on page 91 of
> 107 I actually started getting French titles with holdings. Up until 91 and
> after page 94, the results were all those random bibs with no holdings… (I
> guess we have a lot of bibs with no holdings) So about 150 out of 5342 bibs
> were what I actually had requested via the filter (50 results per page)
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> Maybe an ideal solution would be if there was a checkbox that you could
> click that said “Limit to bibs with holdings” or something so you could
> eliminate the excess! I tried clicking the “Limit to available” but that
> did not work.
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> Simone Rauscher
> Cataloguing and Collections Coordinator
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> srauscher at grimsby.ca
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> 905-309-2063
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> Grimsby Public Library
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> *From:* Evergreen-general <
> evergreen-general-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Janet
> Schrader
> *Sent:* May 17, 2021 12:28 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general at list.evergreen-ils.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client
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> +1 to what Elaine said.  If the bib record has no holdings the system
> doesn't know what scope to put it in, so it puts it in everyone's scope.
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> That's the easiest way we've found to explain it to our libraries.
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> Janet
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> *Janet Schrader*
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> Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS
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> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:47 AM Elaine Hardy <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> wrote:
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> Remember that staff searches will return bib records with no holdings
> attached in  staff client searches scoped by library so that they are
> findable by catalogers. This oftenmeans unexpected results for searches.
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> *J. Elaine Hardy*, PINES and Collaborative Projects Manager
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> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:31 AM Millissa Macomber <
> millissam at burlingtonwa.gov> wrote:
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> I ran into this same issue when looking for items. It seems to work for
> patrons when they search through the OPAC but on the staff client we get a
> bunch of extra results that don't fit the criteria. ESI is working with me
> on it to see if there is an existing bug or if we need to create one.
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> evergreen-general-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org> on behalf of Benjamin
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> *Sent:* Friday, May 14, 2021 7:17:37 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client
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> I don't believe you need the asterisk. Leaving that field blank should be
> sufficient.
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> *But also...*
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> My understanding is that we can't rely on the OPAC to return all results
> when many items match the criteria—for that you need to run a report.
> Unless the collection is very small, limiting to a shelving location and
> not providing any keywords will likely result in items missing from the
> returned results. Someone please correct me if I am wrong—I'd love to be
> wrong about this—but we ran into this same problem years ago and this is
> what we were told at that time.
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> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Simone Rauscher <srauscher at grimsby.ca>
> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Kendra’s question made me think of something else I have been wondering
> about. I’m working in 3.6, and I’m finding the search filters in the staff
> client Catalog Keyword Search are not working for me the way I thought they
> would. Particularly, searching by shelving location or “All Copy Locations”.
>
> As an example, When I try to look up all the items we have in our French
> Language collection. I go to the filter options and in “All copy locations”
> and select “French Language (GRIMSBY)”, put a * in the search field and
> press enter.
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> This I would think should bring up all the records that have copies
> attached with the Shelving Location of “French Language (GRIMSBY)”, but I
> get a bunch of a results that do not meet these parameters. Bibs with no
> items attached, random DVDs, video games etc. I’ve tried to choose “French”
> under the “All Languages”, but they just gives me a different set of random
> results.
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> Is there a trick I am missing? Maybe I can’t use * to do a blanket type
> search like this? Basically I’d like to be able to look up every title I
> have in a specific collection without having to run a report. Any tips?
> Anyone know of any bugs? Thanks!
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> Simone Rauscher
> Cataloguing and Collections Coordinator
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> srauscher at grimsby.ca
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> 905-309-2063
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