[Evergreen-general] [Evergreen-catalogers] [External] Serials Chronology Question

Thu Mar 10 15:56:54 EST 2022

Hi Irene,

I went ahead and created a new bug Web Client: Cannot Import/Directly Enter
JSON in UI <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1964522>

And, for others who are reading this thread and newer to serials, my
alternative enumeration example was incomplete (multitasking). A better
example would be if you have a serial such as v.4:no.1(2022:Jan.)=no.125

Thank You,
Erica

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:01 PM Patrick, Irene <irene.patrick at ncdcr.gov>
wrote:

> Thank you, Erica, that does help!  I wasn’t having any problems with the
> Enumeration part, just the Chronology, and since the Alternative Chronology
> option wasn’t supplying anything that looks different from the regular
> chronology, it was very confusing.  I really am not sure when I would ever
> need to use it.
>
>
>
> Sometimes there’s just no good way to get a working prediction using the
> wizard, so being able to create a pattern code in a text editor outside of
> Evergreen and paste it into the serials pattern to test it was extremely
> helpful.  Since we’re a State Library, we get so many publications with odd
> patterns with our government documents and genealogy subscriptions that
> looking at the MARC coding standards and manually creating patterns for
> testing was the only way I got working predictions for a lot of titles.
> And I have a document file listing the odd patterns I had created so that
> if another title came in that used that pattern, we could just copy it and
> paste it into Evergreen.  I’m not quite sure how we will be able to deal
> with that going forward.
>
>
>
> If you create a bug for that issue, let me know, and I’ll add heat!
>
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> *From:* Erica Rohlfs <erica.rohlfs at equinoxoli.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:28 PM
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> Patrick, Irene <irene.patrick at ncdcr.gov>
> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] [External] [Evergreen-general]
> Serials Chronology Question
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> Hi Irene,
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>
>
> *Does anyone know how the Alternative Chronology Captions is supposed to
> work?*
>
>
>
> The alternative enumeration works like the regular enumeration option.
> It's just meant to help record any instances of serials that require
> fascicles or any other numbering schemes in addition to a regular scheme
> of enumeration (example: *NGS Magazine *January - March 2022; Volume 48,
> Number 1). The Serials module was built rather rigidly based on the LOC 853-855
> - Captions and Pattern-General Information
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd853855.html__;!!HYmSToo!MasNBxyaLeVIISfJQ1tqzURXnVV3R0eMmro0RhvO7wjQFF_AH8qtLNWtha94O8FA0A2E$>
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> In the Enumeration Labels tab (corresponding to the LOC Enumeration
> caption), the regular enumeration allows for up to 6 levels of enumeration,
> while the Alternative allows for up to 2 levels.
>
> In the Chronology Display tab (corresponding to the LOC Chronology
> caption), the regular chronology allows for up to 4 levels of chronology,
> while the alternative chronology allows for 1 level. The Evergreen pattern
> wizard is mirroring the LOC standards.
>
>
>
> *I will say that I also miss the capability of simply pasting in a raw
> pattern code.*
>
> I agree with you. Sharing pattern codes and directly entering JSON was an
> advantage in the Serials module. I thought that I already created a bug for
> it, but I'm not seeing one.
>
>
>
> Does this help?
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Erica
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:42 AM Patrick, Irene via Evergreen-catalogers <
> evergreen-catalogers at list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
>
> I haven’t received any response to my question from Friday, so I thought I
> would try just one more time, and copy the question to the cataloging list,
> in case someone there has some input.  Does anyone know how the Alternative
> Chronology Captions is supposed to work?  I did check the documentation
> last week (
> https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/docs/latest/serials/B-serials_admin.html
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> but it doesn’t describe what’s supposed to happen.  Is this working the way
> it is supposed to, or is there a bug?
>
>
>
> If it is working as designed, then I don’t know what it would be used
> for.  It doesn’t seem functional.
>
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> I’m working on an odd serial today.  My experience with creating patterns
> in serials has been with XUL, but we’re now on the web interface (version
> 3.7.2).  I’ve run into an issue with the Chronology Captions while trying
> to create a new pattern.
>
>
>
> The serial in hand uses traditional volume and number for enumeration, but
> is using “1st Quarter”, “2nd Quarter”, etc. for the chronology, rather
> than months or seasons.  When I go to create a pattern and I get to the
> Chronology Display, I tried checking “Use Alternative Chronology Captions”,
>  but that only gives me Level 1.  There’s no option to get a second level
> for the Alternative captions.  If I click Add Level, it only adds a level
> to “Use Chronology Captions”, not to the alternative chronology.  And even
> if it did add to the alternative chronology, would there be any way to add
> a free text chronology?  Under Alternative Chronology, Level 1 still gives
> you only the standard options in a dropdown.
>
>
>
> If I uncheck the Use Chronology Captions box, while leaving the Use
> Alternative Chronology Captions box checked, trying to get it to show only
> the Alternative Option, that gets rid of the chronology option entirely,
> and the section for the Alternative Chronology completely disappears.
>
>
>
> Is this a bug?  I searched Launchpad, but couldn't find anything like this.
>
>
>
> I will say that I also miss the capability of simply pasting in a raw
> pattern code.  I used to copy shared codes, or simply create my own in
> notepad and paste them into XUL.  And I could test patterns that way until
> I found one that worked.
>
>
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> *Irene Patrick*
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