[Evergreen-general] [External] Discussion/Heat request for Bug 1721053

Murphy, Benjamin Benjamin.Murphy at dncr.nc.gov
Fri Jul 26 10:49:41 EDT 2024


This is something that we also run into regularly and is an annoyance for staff.

I think the ideal behavior for us would be:

If there's a limit on a circmod, a patron hits the max holds on that circmod and can't place more holds for that circmod, but they're not restricted in the number of holds they can place for other circmods until they hit any limits in place for those circmods.

So the ability to set:
org unit -> permission group -> circmod -> hold limit

But with an inheritance structure where these could also be set if values not provided for one of the fields, with more specificity winning (do we then get into weighting?):
org unit -> permission group  -> hold limit
org unit -> circmod  -> hold limit


This brings to mind some of what we've learned about circ limit sets, in that they are ORs rather than ANDs. So, as we understand it, Evergreen will consider either the circulation modifier or shelving location found in the limit set, not both. That's not the behavior I'm describing above.

Interested in this conversation!



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Hello Everyone,



PaILS is interested in pursuing future development for bug 1721053<https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1721053> and we’d like to see how other consortia feel about it. Currently there is max hold option in the hold policies, but it doesn’t limit to just the hold policy scenario but rather all holds.  For example, if you have a hold policy that says that patrons can have a max hold of 2 on the kit circulation modifier it will block patrons from placing holds on kits if they have more than 2 holds on any other circulation modifiers.   We have a few libraries that want to limit the number of holds patrons can have on higher ticket items like hotspots and library of things items.  They might have a higher limit on other circulation modifiers like 10 dvds and 25 on books.



We are interested in seeing how folks would prefer this to function.  Would a hold limit set, similar to how the circulation limit sets,  as suggested in the comments work?  Would you prefer the max hold value work on the individual hold scenario and leave it in the policy as it is now?  Does anyone have an alternative idea?



Thanks,

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