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<p>Not sure how helpful this is, but we ended up building an online
form that allows us to capture the cosigner information:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.grpl.org/get-a-card/">https://www.grpl.org/get-a-card/</a></p>
<p>One of the nice features of the form is that it allows a
co-signer to register for multiple juvenile cards at once. It also
allows users to upload identity and address documents so that we
can then issue and mail the cards.</p>
<p>Jen</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/8/2020 7:33 PM, Laura Burk wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">We use 13. I think it's based more on the rules of
internet marketing to kids under 13 (who aren't even supposed to
have email addresses). We let 13+ get cards for themselves in
person as well.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 6:56 PM
Scott Tracey <<a href="mailto:stracey@wlaf.lib.in.us"
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<div dir="auto">I thought it was under 18?<br>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Scott Tracey<br>
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West Lafayette Public Library<br>
208 West Columbia Street<br>
West Lafayette, IN 47906<br>
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<div dir="ltr">In our public library district, parents
must apply for cards for children under age sixteen.
Anyone under age sixteen cannot use our online
registration since we can't verify parental permission
(and financial responsibility).</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="arial black, sans-serif">Diane
Disbro</font></div>
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<div>Pronouns: she/her</div>
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<div>251 Union Plaza Drive</div>
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4:09 PM Patrick, Irene <<a
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">We've
got a question. We've been using the Request a
Library Card form in the Evergreen OPAC. We
have customized it a bit. I recently received a
question about adding the Parent/Guardian field
to the registration form. Apparently there is a
new project that will be happening in our
department, and staff are expecting an influx of
registrations for juveniles. So they wanted to
include the Parent/Guardian field on the online
registration.</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
asked our consortium if they could add this
field to our form, and after investigating, they
reported that they could not do this. Their
explanation:</div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">"We
tried adding that field to your registration
page on the development version of your site,
but the change caused a system failure when we
tried to create a patron. We looked into the
reason why we were unable to add this field and
here's what we came up with:
<p>When someone goes to register a card through
this interface, the results are sent to a
database table called "User Stage". This table
closely mirrors the "User" table so that when
a staff member registers the "User Stage", the
data is dumped directly from this table into
the "User" table. However, updates to the
"User" table don't always make it onto "User
Stage", and that is the case with the guardian
field. The only way to get this to work
properly would be to change the schema of the
database to add this piece of data on the
"User Stage" table. "</p>
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<p>This is surprising to us. We are not a
public library, and have had few requests to
register juveniles so far. But since
Evergreen was designed for public libraries,
we were quite surprised to find that we can't
easily add the Parent/Guardian field to the
OPAC registration form.</p>
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<p>I checked Launchpad and it looks like it has
already been listed as a bug (<a
href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1897103"
id="m_-1743105235393191071m_7056293280074112379m_975897960316649001m_8895284220927998204gmail-m_-5441799714913216935m_-5341415815854697001LPlnk"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1897103</a>),
although there's not much heat on it yet. Is
this really not a problem for most public
libraries? How do you all deal with the
problem? When registering juveniles, do they
all have to use an offline form to register?<br>
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