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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks very much for your help Elaine, I will pass this along to our committees!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But yes I agree maybe finding a way to weigh the searches to put the empty bibs at the bottom is another solution to the issue. A bug
may result out of this and I will let everyone know. It seems like Millissa is already working on something as well, so hopefully we can get this solved!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Elaine Hardy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May 19, 2021 8:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I personally would delete any empty bibs in the database longer than a month; however, since this impacts the whole consortium, it may need to be longer than that
</span></span>. At one time, PINES was doing so if the record remained in the database longer than 6 months<span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> based on individual library workflows. We no longer do that since libraries
have reduced the amount of time between when the record is imported and when items are added..
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> It may also be an education issue -- catalogers may not be aware they need to delete, or overlay, records imported in error and just leave them there in the way.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">You might also check to see if there is a way to weight searches so that items without copies sort last rather than first. I don't know that there is a way, but there
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:39 PM Simone Rauscher <<a href="mailto:srauscher@grimsby.ca">srauscher@grimsby.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the tips Elaine,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Looking at it, the majority are not electronic resources, although I did come across a few. A good
chunk of them are new bibs where holdings have yet to be attached, but without going through with a fine tooth comb, it looks like the majority are older bibs for physical items with no holdings. (I’m also finding more pockets of French books sprinkled throughout
as well)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I believe we do have it set up now that bibs do delete when the last attached item is deleted, however
I’m not sure this was always the case before my library joined our consortium. If I were to guess based on the results, we started doing that in 2018.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Definitely it seems like there is a project here we need to undertake to clean up our records - it
would definitely reduce the amount of results coming back - however we would still need to have a way to filter out no-holdings-bibs as we do have a significant amount of new records that clutter up the results.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Elaine Hardy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May 18, 2021 4:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Were the title truly ones without holdings? Or are they electronic resources? Records for electronic records with the uri set should
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Correction: it was page 91 – 102 - so about 550 out of 5342 bibs were what I actually had requested
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Simone Rauscher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May 18, 2021 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That’s great Millissa, let me know how you do, would definitely add heat to that bug.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">And yes thanks to Janet and Elaine for that context – that is probably why I am getting all those random
results - it’s just odd that it pulls up the bibs with no holdings when I’m applying a copy-specific filter on the search. You’d think that would eliminate those bibs from consideration as it would have nothing to latch on to.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Some more context:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I did a little more diving into my French search, of which I had retrieved 5342 results – I went right
to end of my results pages and on page 91 of 107 I actually started getting French titles with holdings. Up until 91 and after page 94, the results were all those random bibs with no holdings… (I guess we have a lot of bibs with no holdings) So about 150 out
of 5342 bibs were what I actually had requested via the filter (50 results per page)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Maybe an ideal solution would be if there was a checkbox that you could click that said “Limit to bibs
with holdings” or something so you could eliminate the excess! I tried clicking the “Limit to available” but that did not work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> May 17, 2021 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I ran into this same issue when looking for items. It seems to work for patrons when they search through the OPAC but on the staff client we get a bunch of extra results that don't fit the criteria.
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 14, 2021 7:17:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Evergreen-general] Catalog search filters in staff client</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Simone Rauscher <<a href="mailto:srauscher@grimsby.ca" target="_blank">srauscher@grimsby.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:#1F497D">Kendra’s question made me think of something else I have been wondering about. I’m working in 3.6, and I’m finding the search filters in the staff client Catalog Keyword Search are not working for me the way I thought they would.
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D">As an example, When I try to look up all the items we have in our French Language collection. I go to the filter options and in “All copy locations” and select “French Language (GRIMSBY)”, put a * in the search field and press
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D">This I would think should bring up all the records that have copies attached with the Shelving Location of “French Language (GRIMSBY)”, but I get a bunch of a results that do not meet these parameters. Bibs with no items attached,
random DVDs, video games etc. I’ve tried to choose “French” under the “All Languages”, but they just gives me a different set of random results.
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D">Is there a trick I am missing? Maybe I can’t use * to do a blanket type search like this? Basically I’d like to be able to look up every title I have in a specific collection without having to run a report. Any tips? Anyone know
of any bugs? Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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