<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi!</div><div><br></div><div>I don't have answers to Dan's questions, but to add on to what Lindsay was saying, from the perspective of making Evergreen appealing to new libraries considering a system switch, I think it would be a worthwhile investment for the community to do whatever work is needed to remove notes like these from vendor web sites. There are so many benefits to using Evergreen, but this note could stop a library from even investigating Evergreen as an ILS.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>Kathy</div><div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">--</span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Kathy Lussier</div><div><a href="https://kmlussier.com/" target="_blank">https://kmlussier.com</a></div><div>26 days away from having an official reason to weigh in on Evergreen issues</div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 8:51 AM Lindsay Stratton via Evergreen-general <<a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think we should be looking very seriously at Evergreen's APIs and improving the documentation, functionality, performance, etc. More vendors and services are moving to APIs, not just for holdings, but user and transaction data as well. Speaking personally, I run holdings uploads for Novelist and Syndetics (which also now offers API uploads but not for Evergreen) and would love to shift them over to an API method. We also use a discovery layer where user data conections needs some improvement. And we have libraries interested in analytics platforms that would also benefit hugely from API connections.<div><br></div><div>Lindsay</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b>Lindsay Stratton</b><div><b>Systems Librarian</b></div><div>Westchester Library System</div><div>570 Taxter Rd., 4th Floor</div><div>Elmsford, NY 10523</div><div><a href="mailto:lstratton@wlsmail.org" target="_blank">lstratton@wlsmail.org</a></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 6:15 PM Dan Moore via Evergreen-general <<a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our collections group is looking to tweak our Novelist implementation to make use of On The Shelf functionality, info here:
<a href="https://connect.ebsco.com/s/article/Setting-up-On-The-Shelf?language=en_US" target="_blank">
https://connect.ebsco.com/s/article/Setting-up-On-The-Shelf?language=en_US</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There’s a curious (if not perhaps a little rude) note at the bottom of the page that states: “There is an Evergreen API that supports automatic harvesting of your collection. However, we were unable to obtain a complete harvest for any
customers during the testing of this functionality, as Evergreen’s Web Services API was not built for such a wide-scale application. We discourage Evergreen customers from utilizing this feature for collection harvesting.”
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<p class="MsoNormal">Additionally, on their KB page for the feature (<a href="https://eis1.my.site.com/ebsco/s/article/ILS-Export-for-NoveList-Products-and-Features?language=en_US" target="_blank">https://eis1.my.site.com/ebsco/s/article/ILS-Export-for-NoveList-Products-and-Features?language=en_US</a>),
we can see some handy older screenshots of what I presume to be the old non-browser client. Combining that with the statement above about “during the testing of this functionality,” I’m presuming this was tested with EBSCO/Novelist at some point but that there
hasn’t been an update to it since the browser client rolled out. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There’s a slew of questions about this in my mind… the first being if what’s written here is accurate about the Evergreen API method of harvesting collection information not being robust enough (which generates an immediate follow up –
what would make it robust enough?). But I’m also curious about the collective wisdom of the community about these strategies. We’re moving toward a Lean-based purchasing model wherein selectors will have a daily cap of titles to order so as not to create a
wave for shipping/receiving folks to drudge through later. Real-time availability of holdings information would be a huge boon in supporting both Lean purchasing strategies AND maximizing Novelists’ effectiveness for reader’s advisory. However, if uploading
holdings records is just the best way of doing it due to the performance of the API as-is or the time/money needed to extend it, then we’ll go that route instead – whatever delivers the best, most accurate information to patrons.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the best, <u></u><u></u></p>
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