<div dir="ltr"><div>PINES is currently on 3.12 so we've only been using it for the Holds Pull List so far. We had so many problems with it that we decided not to allow libraries to customize their Holds Pull List and have had to enforce a single template for everyone because we cannot maintain a potential 300 templates. </div><div><br></div><div>We also have big reservations about the upcoming circ interfaces using them because our libraries have so many different needs. Particularly difficult will be the libraries that use different templates within a single branch - for example, different checkout templates on different workstations at the same branch based on whether a checkout is at the desk, through curbside pickup, or on a self-pickup shelf.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 4:19 PM John Amundson via Evergreen-general <<a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hi, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I'm revitalizing this email thread from two years ago.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">CW MARS is preparing an upgrade from 3.7 to 3.14, and I'm finally starting to look over the new server-side print templates. We will mainly be using the template for the Holds Pull List, but as others mention, this interface is going to be used a lot more heavily as more circulation interfaces are ported to Angular. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I can't seem to find any documentation on the interface, so I'm going to repeat Jennifer's question from two years ago:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium;padding:0px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>Does anyone have tips, resources, or documentation about customizing templates via Admin -> Server Administration -> Print Templates that they'd be willing to share?</i></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)">My immediate need is to add the item's status to the list now that statuses other than Available may show up on the pull list. So far I've gotten [% hold.cp_status %] to print the status id, but I can't get the name to print. Any recommendations? Does anyone know how the variables are structured?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">My deeper concern is that the entire interface is confusing and needs to be much more robust - or at least more in-depthly documented. I've filed a bug with my thoughts: <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2092239" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2092239</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As it stands right now, I don't foresee us giving libraries permission to make their own edits to server-side templates. There are just too many ways for it to go wrong. For the libraries that have been using server-side templates for a while, how has it been going?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">John</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:medium;border-collapse:collapse;table-layout:fixed;width:468pt"><colgroup><col><col width="492"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:0pt"><td style="border-width:1pt 1.5pt 1pt 1pt;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(255,255,255) rgb(22,65,111) rgb(255,255,255) rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:top;overflow:hidden"><br><span style="border:medium;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:139px;height:95px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/tul88-wc3Qz-fvt6tcLU2we4VEIM-qZ4qSA7Xo3hntnhYL9AdTSxk8JaWCLR010mzyDlxJwjUhZdOgaxmbK2WZuaFI-QUqtNqT_cCK9kIgU88EbtLqbTjyvym7HV5p6XRTXaz8HaYQhKyj05PEMcOm0" width="139" height="95" style="margin-left: 0px; 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<br>
This is our first library to get a custom pull list template and we <br>
just set it up for them yesterday so we haven't run into issues with <br>
multiple versions of the template yet. This library is one that uses <br>
their receipt printer for the pull list so the default template wasn't <br>
working for them.<br>
<br>
Looking ahead to the circ receipts moving to this editor with the new <br>
angular circ I agree that we're going to need a way to allow <br>
workstation-level customizations. We currently haven't given <br>
permissions for libraries to edit their own templates in the new Print <br>
Templates but we're anticipating that we'll need to do that ahead of <br>
our next upgrade in 2023.<br>
<br>
Jennifer<br>
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Quoting Terran McCanna <<a href="mailto:tmccanna@georgialibraries.org" target="_blank">tmccanna@georgialibraries.org</a>>:<br>
<br>
> Are you having any issues saving multiple versions of the same template at<br>
> different org unit levels? (Like the default consortium one, then a<br>
> different branch one?) I haven't tried this in a while, but I had issues in<br>
> 3.8 with saving various versions of the holds pull list. We also have<br>
> issues where different workstations in the same branch need to print the<br>
> same receipt in different ways, which doesn't appear to be an option at all<br>
> with the new interface. A couple of bugs I've opened:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958875" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958875</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958683" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958683</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 6:42 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general <<br>
> <a href="mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span>Does anyone have tips, resources, or documentation about customizing<br>
>> templates via Admin -> Server Administration -> Print Templates that<br>
>> they'd be willing to share?<br>
>><br>
>> We're running 3.9.0 and I'm trying to customize the new Hold Pull List<br>
>> print out for a library. The changes I'm currently trying to make are:<br>
>> 1. having the author column only include the $a from the 100 field in<br>
>> the MARC. Right now the contents of $d (author dates) are also<br>
>> included which isn't needed on the pull list.<br>
>> 2. showing just the last few digits of the item barcode. Our library<br>
>> prints their pull list out on their receipt printer so we don't want<br>
>> the full 14 digit barcode to display. (I can do this with fields in<br>
>> the old workstation receipt templates.)<br>
>><br>
>> I checked the official docs and the last few sets of release notes and<br>
>> couldn't find anything.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Jennifer<br>
>> --<br>
>> Jennifer Pringle (she/her)<br>
>> Co-op Support - Training Lead<br>
>> BC Libraries Cooperative<br>
>> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250<br>
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