[Evergreen-governance-l] Rules of Governance
Corridan, Jim (ICPR)
jcorridan at icpr.IN.gov
Sun Aug 29 11:24:52 EDT 2010
Governance Committee -
Thank you Sylvia for the tremendous time and effort you and the committee (Dan and Galen) have put in to preparing the draft governing rules.
I am not quite clear what role Dan and Galen see for the Foundation. I have thought one of the roles of the Foundation was to be the code committing entity. If there is no Technology Committee, will the Board make those decisions? Will that necessitate the Board being composed mostly of developers? Should the foundation be more than a code committing entity? (and I hope it will be much more). Will it coordinate communications, conference, fundraising. and notify all of us of development efforts?
Membership seems to be a point of discussion. Should institutions be members or individuals, or both? Do we need a centralized structure or decentralized? Do we want membership distributed equitably among the users by institution? I am uncomfortable about someone/group/committee determining what is a worthy contribution and having the authority to approve or deny membership. I think membership should be based upon institutions that have an active installation of Evergreen, and those entities supporting Evergreen installations. (But then again, it depends upon the purpose of the foundation and if it is more than a developers group).
Can we establish a centralized structure that allows the developers the freedom to feel unrestrained? Isn't the issue that development projects have not been systematically shared with Evergreen institutions and decision makers who might wish to join these projects and fund/provide input into the effort(s). I don't believe anyone wants to be centrally dictating development, I believe the issue is related to communication.
Perhaps we should discuss this further and soon so we have some sense of direction, unless it's just me.
Jim Corridan
Indiana State Library
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Subject: [Evergreen-governance-l] ***SPAM*** RE: Be sure to do this
Dan and Galen,
Please let me know if you didn’t get this e-mail through the group list serve as well as personally. I have had difficulty sending e-mails to the group as a whole in the past.
Governance group:
Attached is the first draft of the proposed Governance Rules. I solicited comments from Dan and Galen, some of which have already been incorporated. The following comments that I have pasted into this e-mail are the comments that warrant further discussion.
Thanks,
Sylvia Watson
Indiana State Library
Dan’s comments:
Dan was concerned about the way membership is set up:
“... that's very different from the contribution/meritocracy-driven
approach taken by other software foundations, like:
* the Apache Software Foundation (see paragraph 2 of
http://www.apache.org/foundation/ ),
* Sugar Labs (see "Sugar Labs Membership" on
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance ),
* Python Software Foundation (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/ )
* Django Software Foundation (see "How can I join the DSF?" at
http://www.djangoproject.com/foundation/faq/ - although I suspect
there's some attempt to prevent too many members from being able to
join)”
[board](Composition)
a) The software world moves quickly, and during the first years of the
Foundation I would suggest that elections be held annually. Particularly
if there's a meritocracy component to becoming an Evergreen Member; it
becomes an incentive to contribute to the project. In all likelihood,
Board Members will be re-elected unless they've been negligent or doing
a bad job, in which case we want them turfed (politely) at the next
opportunity. I fear that stretching the term to two years increases the
chance that it won't be possible to do that politely.
d) Can one Board Member represent more than one of the categories? For
example, if I was to serve as a board member I could satisfy four
categories:
* academic library
* library that is a member of an Evergreen consortium
* library that is located outside of the States
* vendor
I understand that there is a desire to have broad representation on the
board, but I worry that having categories and limits might be overly
complex (for example: would board members have to be nominated to
represent just one of those categories?) and for not necessarily much
gain, if the Evergreen Members are the ones determining who shall make
up the board.
[This isn’t really an issue because the Nominations and Membership development Committee reviews the candidates and recommends a ballot on which there would be broad representation. However, it is an issue if people don’t like that the Nominations and Membership Development Committee will be selecting the default group of candidates. It is provided that others can run against the slate from the floor.]
[board] (Term)
I'm not sure why there is a cap on serving as a Board Member. Again, an
effective membership should be able to vote out Board Members who are
doing a bad job, and if a Board Member is doing a good or great job in a
more-or-less thankless position, why wouldn't we want to be able to keep
re-electing that person to that position?
Standing Committees
i) I would strike the Technology Committee from the list, particularly
if the membership is institution-based and not individual-based, but
even if the membership was entirely contribution/meritocracy-driven. The
forum for development of code must not be left up to a committee, or
we're dead. If the developers are not openly communicating with each
other and working out the best technical solutions on a day-to-day
basis, we're dead. I would go so far as to say that setting up a
Technology Committee "responsible for reviewing and recommending
updates, changes, and patches to the Evergreen code" would in one stroke
alienate the existing developer base.
I'm still conflicted about institutional vs. individual membership, and
still not sure how to resolve it. Obviously KCLS has contributed
massively in terms of providing funds for Evergreen development - but
then both Jason Stephenson and Thomas Berezanksy from MVLC step up and
contribute some significant patches to Evergreen. I want to encourage
both kinds of contributions to the community, but doing it strictly at
the institutional level with a single member rep per institution doesn't
seem to capture or encourage the significance of individual
contributions to the project.
I also worry about the Oversight Board being the only ones who can
approve memberships. Shouldn't the members themselves be the ones who
approve members? Perhaps, given that members have the power to revoke
membership, they should have the reciprocal ability to grant membership.
And then the Board would just be a means of expediting membership
application, rather than having unique powers.
Galen’s comments:
I share many of Dan's concerns, and won't repeat all of them here. I agree with him membership should be primarily individual, but obviously we will need to balance that with the the fact that users of Evergreen are primarily institutions. If we follow the Sugar Labs model, which counts running a Sugar deployment as a significant contribution, we could extend the metaphor so that any library running Evergreen in production would be able to name a member. I would consider libraries whose Evergreen installation is hosted by somebody else to count under that model, i.e., they would also be eligible to name a member.
1.2 - I can see the foundation having a legitimate role as *an* aggregation point for funding, but I do not think that it should contemplate setting itself up as a the *only* centralization point. [this concern has already been addressed, but it is necessary to include the comment so that the following comment can be read in context]
What I would suggest as an alternative is that the foundation consider using its fund-raising ability to certain kinds of contribution tasks that are necessary but can often end up in the background, such as testing, user interface design and usability testing, accessibility design, and translations.
I strongly agree with Dan that a technology committee should not be included at this time, at least as currently described. That is not the say that there are not issues of concern regarding how development happens in Evergreen, but the developers who are actively contributing need to be able to work and experiment freely and openly. To the extent that changes are needed, in the short term they are mostly about increasing transparency and communication; a committee which would inevitably be perceived as being imposed upon the developers would not facilitate that.
[Galen also commented that he wanted to ensure that membership applications will be evaluated more frequently than annually. This will occur under the current set-up for admitting members, but could change if we have the membership vote on membership applications.]
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