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    <p>Hi,<br>
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      <blockquote type="cite">3.  Yeah, I wondered how that much color
        and brightness would look to folks.  It's an experiment. I've
        had other feedback that it's the favorite part of the report to
        some others.  So, I'm going to chalk that one up to a
        contentious matter of taste and leave as is.  We can have a
        debate at the conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if
        need be.  I'm also starting to think that all matters of dispute
        that are qualitative rather than quantitative should be settled
        via karaoke battles. </blockquote>
      I'll admit to being the person who said they really like that page
      and am happy to engage in debate. But I will NOT agree to doing
      karaoke if I lose. I think we've done our bit to get out of
      singing karaoke for this conference. <br>
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    <p>Kathy<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/12/2018 08:07 AM, Rogan Hamby
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMwaE4KpW2m5zxWssHUSwuptO14LS7QYLs3sNERAw+6ap6eeHg@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">1.  Font issue should be fixed now thanks to xml
        editing.
        <div>2.  Technically not but for reasons that matter to no one. 
          Regardless, should look better now.</div>
        <div>3.  Yeah, I wondered how that much color and brightness
          would look to folks.  It's an experiment. I've had other
          feedback that it's the favorite part of the report to some
          others.  So, I'm going to chalk that one up to a contentious
          matter of taste and leave as is.  We can have a debate at the
          conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if need be. 
          I'm also starting to think that all matters of dispute that
          are qualitative rather than quantitative should be settled via
          karaoke battles.  </div>
        <div>4.  I'm going to spare you my rant on how text box cloning
          _should_ work and visually center them with the common 'y'
          character as a vertical guide.  Let me know how it look in
          proof 4 when I send that out (shortly).</div>
        <div>5.  Thank you.  There are some stray pixel issues but I
          don't think they'll be noticeable to anyone at scale when
          printed.  I enjoy spending some time when I can on those kinds
          of bits and pieces.</div>
        <div>6. I thought it was cooler to be a verb than noun.  (joking
          aside, fixed)</div>
        <div>7. Interesting note, since in the layout program you have
          all these border markers that you need for objects it makes it
          really hard to visually identify centers on small objects
          which is why some layout software give you relative object
          alignments to show you how the centers/edges align are when
          you select an active object.  Tragically that's not available
          here.  Also I can't actually center it because of how it does
          overlapping objects of that size but I can do something else
          that will create the same effect (first line offset). Good
          catch, thank you.</div>
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        <div>Nitpicking is exactly what is needed, so thank you for it.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Ruth
          Frasur <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:director@hagerstownlibrary.org"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">director@hagerstownlibrary.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">My comments are as follows, and with deep
              recognition that you've been working a LOT and this makes
              me feel nit picky.  
              <div>1.  There seem to be a lot of fonts.  I wouldn't say
                it's weirdness, but a lot.  Most notably, to my mind,
                are the two text areas on the last page.  My eye
                expected them to be what seems to be the standard san
                serif font throughout, but it's not.   </div>
              <div>2.  The logo on the back page seems like it's a
                little close on the left hand side.</div>
              <div>3.  On page 9, there are essentially 6 colors ranging
                from green-blue to fluorescent green.  That's a lot of
                green.  Grant, we're Evergreen.  </div>
              <div>4.  The headers on pages 7 & 8 are off.  The text
                seems too close to the horizontal edge.  On pg. 8, too
                close to the vertical edge.</div>
              <div>5.  The Kentucky collage on pg. 6 is awesome.</div>
              <div>6.  On the acknowledgements page, everyone else is a
                proofreader but I'm proofreading.  </div>
              <div>7.  On the center teal bar on the acknowledgements
                page, the white text is off vertical center.</div>
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              <div>Enough nit picking for me.  I didn't notice any
                glaring grammatical or spelling errors.  </div>
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                  <div class="h5">On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Rogan
                    Hamby <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        href="mailto:rogan.hamby@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rogan.hamby@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">OK, clearly I missed my self
                        imposed deadline of 2 pm.  There was enough
                        feedback that I couldn't get it all in plus the
                        things I noticed.  But thanks to the wonders of
                        modern technology and mobile hotspots on phones
                        I've continued to plug away at it.  
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                        <div>All of this is relevant because with my
                          laptop screen but without additional monitors
                          so it's hard to jump between all the
                          additional windows to track font changes and
                          such but I _think_ I've gotten the fonts
                          standardized.  Another pass will be needed. 
                          If you still see font weirdness please don't
                          hesitate to say something.  How Scribus
                          handles fonts .... well, let's just say it's
                          not intuitive.  I have unkind adjectives in
                          mind but it is at least consistent so I can
                          work around it even if it makes absolutely no
                          sense why it's doing it in the first place. 
                          And I'm thinking the manual editing of the XML
                          I did at the beginning may be needed again. 
                          Anyway....<br>
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                        <div>I'm still finding some small layout
                          tweaks.  You may notice them.  I haven't
                          logged them as everyone else has been so kind
                          to do.  </div>
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                        <div>Uh..... I have a lot of thoughts but time
                          is short and I don't remember most of them. 
                          But I think all the changes are in.  I do
                          however want to highlight something that has
                          been driving me nuts and that Andrea
                          mentioned: kerning.  </div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>I think some of the text flows look ... not
                          good.  Scribus does not have smart kerning
                          like InDesign or Quark or ... other modern
                          commercial software layout tools.  For the
                          most part Scribus has been decent but when it
                          fails it really fails.  We could just justify
                          everything to both sides like a newspaper but
                          that would look just as bad just different. 
                          The thing about kerning is that it's time
                          consuming to do manually and small text
                          changes can make it all mute so I'm not going
                          to tackle it until I feel sure text changes
                          aren't incoming and even then I'm not sure
                          I'll have time to really go through it all.  </div>
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                        <div>That will be tomorrow.</div>
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                        <div> Proofing copy 3 is attached.</div>
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