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<p>Hi,<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">3. Yeah, I wondered how that much color
and brightness would look to folks. It's an experiment. I've
had other feedback that it's the favorite part of the report to
some others. So, I'm going to chalk that one up to a
contentious matter of taste and leave as is. We can have a
debate at the conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if
need be. I'm also starting to think that all matters of dispute
that are qualitative rather than quantitative should be settled
via karaoke battles. </blockquote>
I'll admit to being the person who said they really like that page
and am happy to engage in debate. But I will NOT agree to doing
karaoke if I lose. I think we've done our bit to get out of
singing karaoke for this conference. <br>
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<p>Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/12/2018 08:07 AM, Rogan Hamby
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">1. Font issue should be fixed now thanks to xml
editing.
<div>2. Technically not but for reasons that matter to no one.
Regardless, should look better now.</div>
<div>3. Yeah, I wondered how that much color and brightness
would look to folks. It's an experiment. I've had other
feedback that it's the favorite part of the report to some
others. So, I'm going to chalk that one up to a contentious
matter of taste and leave as is. We can have a debate at the
conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if need be.
I'm also starting to think that all matters of dispute that
are qualitative rather than quantitative should be settled via
karaoke battles. </div>
<div>4. I'm going to spare you my rant on how text box cloning
_should_ work and visually center them with the common 'y'
character as a vertical guide. Let me know how it look in
proof 4 when I send that out (shortly).</div>
<div>5. Thank you. There are some stray pixel issues but I
don't think they'll be noticeable to anyone at scale when
printed. I enjoy spending some time when I can on those kinds
of bits and pieces.</div>
<div>6. I thought it was cooler to be a verb than noun. (joking
aside, fixed)</div>
<div>7. Interesting note, since in the layout program you have
all these border markers that you need for objects it makes it
really hard to visually identify centers on small objects
which is why some layout software give you relative object
alignments to show you how the centers/edges align are when
you select an active object. Tragically that's not available
here. Also I can't actually center it because of how it does
overlapping objects of that size but I can do something else
that will create the same effect (first line offset). Good
catch, thank you.</div>
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<div>Nitpicking is exactly what is needed, so thank you for it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Ruth
Frasur <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:director@hagerstownlibrary.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">director@hagerstownlibrary.org</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">My comments are as follows, and with deep
recognition that you've been working a LOT and this makes
me feel nit picky.
<div>1. There seem to be a lot of fonts. I wouldn't say
it's weirdness, but a lot. Most notably, to my mind,
are the two text areas on the last page. My eye
expected them to be what seems to be the standard san
serif font throughout, but it's not. </div>
<div>2. The logo on the back page seems like it's a
little close on the left hand side.</div>
<div>3. On page 9, there are essentially 6 colors ranging
from green-blue to fluorescent green. That's a lot of
green. Grant, we're Evergreen. </div>
<div>4. The headers on pages 7 & 8 are off. The text
seems too close to the horizontal edge. On pg. 8, too
close to the vertical edge.</div>
<div>5. The Kentucky collage on pg. 6 is awesome.</div>
<div>6. On the acknowledgements page, everyone else is a
proofreader but I'm proofreading. </div>
<div>7. On the center teal bar on the acknowledgements
page, the white text is off vertical center.</div>
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<div>Enough nit picking for me. I didn't notice any
glaring grammatical or spelling errors. </div>
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<div class="h5">On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Rogan
Hamby <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:rogan.hamby@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rogan.hamby@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">OK, clearly I missed my self
imposed deadline of 2 pm. There was enough
feedback that I couldn't get it all in plus the
things I noticed. But thanks to the wonders of
modern technology and mobile hotspots on phones
I've continued to plug away at it.
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<div>All of this is relevant because with my
laptop screen but without additional monitors
so it's hard to jump between all the
additional windows to track font changes and
such but I _think_ I've gotten the fonts
standardized. Another pass will be needed.
If you still see font weirdness please don't
hesitate to say something. How Scribus
handles fonts .... well, let's just say it's
not intuitive. I have unkind adjectives in
mind but it is at least consistent so I can
work around it even if it makes absolutely no
sense why it's doing it in the first place.
And I'm thinking the manual editing of the XML
I did at the beginning may be needed again.
Anyway....<br>
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<div>I'm still finding some small layout
tweaks. You may notice them. I haven't
logged them as everyone else has been so kind
to do. </div>
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<div>Uh..... I have a lot of thoughts but time
is short and I don't remember most of them.
But I think all the changes are in. I do
however want to highlight something that has
been driving me nuts and that Andrea
mentioned: kerning. </div>
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<div>I think some of the text flows look ... not
good. Scribus does not have smart kerning
like InDesign or Quark or ... other modern
commercial software layout tools. For the
most part Scribus has been decent but when it
fails it really fails. We could just justify
everything to both sides like a newspaper but
that would look just as bad just different.
The thing about kerning is that it's time
consuming to do manually and small text
changes can make it all mute so I'm not going
to tackle it until I feel sure text changes
aren't incoming and even then I'm not sure
I'll have time to really go through it all. </div>
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<div>That will be tomorrow.</div>
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<div> Proofing copy 3 is attached.</div>
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