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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I've done a final read-through of the annual report, and with the
exception of a minor change to the map that Rogan has already
made, it all looks good. Does anyone else want to take a look
before I hand it over to the printer?</p>
<p>You've got about an hour to speak up before I send it along.</p>
<p>Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/12/2018 09:47 AM, Ruth Frasur
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<div dir="ltr">Honestly? I'm really happy that others like the
"greens." If it grabs the attention of people, that's pretty
much the point. I'll save my aesthetic battles for paint
swatches in the home ;-) And signs on the Library door, but
that's a completely different matter.</div>
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<p>Hi,<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">3. Yeah, I wondered how that much
color and brightness would look to folks. It's an
experiment. I've had other feedback that it's the
favorite part of the report to some others. So, I'm
going to chalk that one up to a contentious matter of
taste and leave as is. We can have a debate at the
conference where the loser has to sing karaoke if need
be. I'm also starting to think that all matters of
dispute that are qualitative rather than quantitative
should be settled via karaoke battles. </blockquote>
I'll admit to being the person who said they really like
that page and am happy to engage in debate. But I will NOT
agree to doing karaoke if I lose. I think we've done our
bit to get out of singing karaoke for this conference. <br>
<p>Kathy<br>
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04/12/2018 08:07 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">1. Font issue should be fixed now
thanks to xml editing.
<div>2. Technically not but for reasons that
matter to no one. Regardless, should look
better now.</div>
<div>3. Yeah, I wondered how that much color and
brightness would look to folks. It's an
experiment. I've had other feedback that it's
the favorite part of the report to some others.
So, I'm going to chalk that one up to a
contentious matter of taste and leave as is. We
can have a debate at the conference where the
loser has to sing karaoke if need be. I'm also
starting to think that all matters of dispute
that are qualitative rather than quantitative
should be settled via karaoke battles. </div>
<div>4. I'm going to spare you my rant on how
text box cloning _should_ work and visually
center them with the common 'y' character as a
vertical guide. Let me know how it look in
proof 4 when I send that out (shortly).</div>
<div>5. Thank you. There are some stray pixel
issues but I don't think they'll be noticeable
to anyone at scale when printed. I enjoy
spending some time when I can on those kinds of
bits and pieces.</div>
<div>6. I thought it was cooler to be a verb than
noun. (joking aside, fixed)</div>
<div>7. Interesting note, since in the layout
program you have all these border markers that
you need for objects it makes it really hard to
visually identify centers on small objects which
is why some layout software give you relative
object alignments to show you how the
centers/edges align are when you select an
active object. Tragically that's not available
here. Also I can't actually center it because
of how it does overlapping objects of that size
but I can do something else that will create the
same effect (first line offset). Good catch,
thank you.</div>
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<div>Nitpicking is exactly what is needed, so
thank you for it.</div>
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3:14 PM, Ruth Frasur <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">My comments are as follows, and
with deep recognition that you've been
working a LOT and this makes me feel nit
picky.
<div>1. There seem to be a lot of fonts. I
wouldn't say it's weirdness, but a lot.
Most notably, to my mind, are the two text
areas on the last page. My eye expected
them to be what seems to be the standard
san serif font throughout, but it's not.
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<div>2. The logo on the back page seems
like it's a little close on the left hand
side.</div>
<div>3. On page 9, there are essentially 6
colors ranging from green-blue to
fluorescent green. That's a lot of
green. Grant, we're Evergreen. </div>
<div>4. The headers on pages 7 & 8 are
off. The text seems too close to the
horizontal edge. On pg. 8, too close to
the vertical edge.</div>
<div>5. The Kentucky collage on pg. 6 is
awesome.</div>
<div>6. On the acknowledgements page,
everyone else is a proofreader but I'm
proofreading. </div>
<div>7. On the center teal bar on the
acknowledgements page, the white text is
off vertical center.</div>
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<div>Enough nit picking for me. I didn't
notice any glaring grammatical or spelling
errors. </div>
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Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Rogan
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<div dir="ltr">OK, clearly I missed
my self imposed deadline of 2 pm.
There was enough feedback that I
couldn't get it all in plus the
things I noticed. But thanks to
the wonders of modern technology
and mobile hotspots on phones I've
continued to plug away at it.
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<div>All of this is relevant
because with my laptop screen
but without additional monitors
so it's hard to jump between all
the additional windows to track
font changes and such but I
_think_ I've gotten the fonts
standardized. Another pass will
be needed. If you still see
font weirdness please don't
hesitate to say something. How
Scribus handles fonts .... well,
let's just say it's not
intuitive. I have unkind
adjectives in mind but it is at
least consistent so I can work
around it even if it makes
absolutely no sense why it's
doing it in the first place.
And I'm thinking the manual
editing of the XML I did at the
beginning may be needed again.
Anyway....<br>
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<div>I'm still finding some small
layout tweaks. You may notice
them. I haven't logged them as
everyone else has been so kind
to do. </div>
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<div>Uh..... I have a lot of
thoughts but time is short and I
don't remember most of them.
But I think all the changes are
in. I do however want to
highlight something that has
been driving me nuts and that
Andrea mentioned: kerning. </div>
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<div>I think some of the text
flows look ... not good.
Scribus does not have smart
kerning like InDesign or Quark
or ... other modern commercial
software layout tools. For the
most part Scribus has been
decent but when it fails it
really fails. We could just
justify everything to both sides
like a newspaper but that would
look just as bad just
different. The thing about
kerning is that it's time
consuming to do manually and
small text changes can make it
all mute so I'm not going to
tackle it until I feel sure text
changes aren't incoming and even
then I'm not sure I'll have time
to really go through it all. </div>
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<div>That will be tomorrow.</div>
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<div> Proofing copy 3 is attached.</div>
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