Bob,<div><br></div><div>Thanks so much for the thoughtful message. I agree with you about the need for a LIS Teacher and Student persona and the overlap with Potentials. </div><div><br></div><div>As I read the part of your blog posts, it made me wonder if you'd be willing to be a content provider for the website. Either posting in both places or posting on the <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org">evergreen-ils.org</a> site instead. I think one of the things we are going to have a hard time with is finding people to develop and maintain the various sections we are feel are needed....</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Bb Molyneux <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bob@esilibrary.com">bob@esilibrary.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello Web Team,<br>
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I have some observations: one about the LIS world and some comments on the Website content.<br>
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One is that I would like to suggest that two User Groups be added to the . I don't know your conventions but I think something for LIS students and LIS teachers. I have several reasons for suggesting this.<br>
1. There are a few LIS teachers who attempt to include open source ILSs in their classes. I think this is a good thing for them to be doing and would that more would. Right now, I probably get most of the calls from the few students working on Evergreen. I take them because I have taught in three library schools and I think it important to help the next generation. It will also encourage the spread of Evergreen and open source software if students are familiar with both and the thinking behind open source development and its value in the library world.<br>
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2. What I can do is limited with those students now is limited. Koha with Class offers a way for students to use Koha and mess with it to learn functionality. Now we have documents I refer to. I would argue for an equivalent Evergreen with Class. Dan Scott and I have talked about this many times and it just hasn't been a priority. I see you envision a sandbox. Bravo. Maybe we can replicate them for classes. Professor Xs class gets one for a semester, Professor Ys gets another.<br>
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3. There also should be content suitable for teachers to use and assign for their students. I don't think this need be a separate category of content because to my mind this would largely overlap with Potentials who would be investigating Evergreen. An intro page for teachers/students with discussions of what is on the Evergreen Website, what its context is, suitable links to sources of information, and how to set up your class's sandbox.<br>
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4. However, there will be a few students who will be interested in the underlying technology and I think that the materials for Admin and Developers could largely accommodate this kind of user. Things like server configurations for Admin types, say, would be good I would think.<br>
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5. Choosing an ILS. What are the criteria your library should use? We are *always* getting the cost question and, frankly, it is unanswerable. However, if we could constrain the choices, we might be able to do something. There are a few sites where this has been discussed so links to those sources, too.<br>
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I think that perhaps a page with appropriate title for teachers and students to land that has introductory material and then provides links to the relevant material on the Evergreen sites would create something useful and not provide too much that has to be updated constantly.<br>
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About the Potentials and folks who are investigating Evergreen. I have done a fair number of blog posts directed specifically at this kind of user and students. Largely, I think this comes from having talked to individuals at conferences and such and given talks to groups who are just getting their sea legs with this here open source thingie. If I get a question a couple of times, there is a good chance that I will do a blog post on it. And I have been very concerned about folks in these groups coming to the Evergreen site and not knowing which way was up. The Web site has grown by accretion because everyone was busy. I am so glad you are here because it needs the systematic look you are giving it. And I love the Evergreen 101 idea. It is needed.<br>
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One other type of thing is pulling together variations on the same theme. An example near to my heart:<br>
<a href="http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_and_open_source_glossary" target="_blank">http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_and_open_source_glossary</a><br>
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The provenance of this document is that it is something I wrote in 2008 and Karen put it on the wiki with some additions and emendations. It is out of date. Here is the current version:<br>
<a href="http://blog.esilibrary.com/an-open-source-ils-glossary-html-format-v-2/" target="_blank">http://blog.esilibrary.com/an-open-source-ils-glossary-html-format-v-2/</a><br>
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Everything I have done is Creative Commons Share Alike. I think taking out the Koha specific language of the current glossary and combining the two on the wiki would be a step forward and reduce complexity for updating and confusion for all users.<br>
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IMHO,<br>
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Bob<br>
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