[OPEN-ILS-DEV] Beta App Feedback
Ken Cox
kenstir at gmail.com
Wed Dec 2 09:55:20 EST 2015
Thanks, Ben, that was really helpful!
The app used to look for images by isbn but when that didn't work I
floundered a bit. Looking up /small/r/ID and /medium/r/ID seems to work
well across the board.
Ken
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Ben Shum <bshum at biblio.org> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> Without knowing too much else about the innards of these commands and
> calls... I can tell you that the usual suspect for an item jacket
> image uses the bib record ID in Evergreen for the link. As of
> Evergreen 2.7 and up at least. Prior to that, it used to be ISBN or
> something. But nobody should be using Evergreen versions that old
> anymore, or at least, this community no longer supports versions that
> old.
>
> So, if there had been an image for that bib record 1558155 in NTLC's
> catalog, the URL would have been what you used except instead of
> "tcn", you'd use the ID itself as the ending.
>
> Course that's a bad example and doesn't seem to show anything for the
> image.
>
> From ours as a separate example:
>
> https://acorn.biblio.org/eg/opac/record/699851
>
> has
>
> https://acorn.biblio.org/opac/extras/ac/jacket/large/r/699851
> https://acorn.biblio.org/opac/extras/ac/jacket/small/r/699851
>
> Those are the two versions of the image for us.
>
> So I think that if one were to use the bib record ID instead of TCN,
> that would be a good start.
>
> -- Ben
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Ken Cox <kenstir at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Geoff, thanks for the feedback. I am totally with you on the OU level
> > stuff and will deal with that soon.
> >
> > Re: jacket images. Definitely could be a bug here. Devs, please help
> > me understand what is supposed to happen. Here's what happens in the
> > app:
> >
> > 1. App queries "sorcerer's stone" via
> https://catalog.northtexaslibraries.org/
> >
> > This returns a list of ids [1558155, 814731, 1341211, 1317697,
> 327359]
> >
> > [ for each result ]
> >
> > 2. App calls
> https://catalog.northtexaslibraries.org/osrf-gateway-v1?service=open-ils.search&method=open-ils.search.biblio.record.mods_slim.retrieve¶m=1558155
> >
> > This returns the payload (converted)
> >
> > [
> > {
> > "online_loc": [
> >
> > ],
> > "types_of_resource": [
> > "text"
> > ],
> > "isbn": "9780545790352 (hardcover) ",
> > "toc": null,
> > "publisher": null,
> > "pubdate": "2015",
> > "edition": "First illustrated edition.",
> > "title": "Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone ",
> > "copy_count": null,
> > "call_numbers": [
> >
> > ],
> > "physical_description": "print 246 pages : color illustrations ; 28
> cm. ",
> > "doc_id": 1558155,
> > "series": [
> >
> > ],
> > "subject": {
> > "Magic": 1,
> > "England": 1,
> > "Schools": 1,
> > "Wizards": 1,
> > "Potter, Harry (Fictitious character)": 1
> > },
> > "tcn": " 2015009929",
> > "doc_type": null,
> > "synopsis": "Rescued from the outrageous neglect of his aunt and
> > uncle, a young boy with a great destiny proves his worth while
> > attending Hogwarts School for Witchcraft and Wizardry.",
> > "author": "Rowling, J. K."
> > }
> > ]
> >
> > 3. App constructs a record info with the tcn above: " 2015009929"
> >
> > 4. App tries to load jacket image from
> > https://catalog.northtexaslibraries.org/opac/extras/ac/jacket/small/r/
> > 2015009929
> >
> > What is the proper algorithm for constructing the jacket image URL
> > across different libraries?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Geoff Sams <GSams at roanoketexas.com>
> wrote:
> >> Now that I've had a chance to really use the app, I figured I post some
> feedback here as well.
> >>
> >> First off, wow! The app look and feel are really nice. Each interface
> is snappy and seems to work pretty smoothly. From a design stand point, I
> think this is pretty solid.
> >>
> >> A possible bug: Jacket Images do not seem to appear for me when there
> are available images in the catalog. It doesn't appear that either images
> entered into the system manually, or OpenLibrary.org images are appearing.
> >>
> >> A visual preference: When there is no image, the space for the image
> shows up white, which is at odds with the rest of the app's design elements
> and is a little jarring. This is more opinion than anything else, take it
> or leave it, won't bother me a bit. I'm not even sure if this one is
> possible to change in any case without changing the blank image that is
> used everywhere.
> >>
> >> I think that utilizing the same sorting for OUs as the TPAC does would
> be ideal for the app as well. As far as I can tell that is by OU-level,
> then by alpha within a level. Currently in the app, the consortium level
> is at the top, then everything else is below that in alpha for my
> consortium. We have 3 levels in our group: Consortium, Geographic Area,
> Library. So all of the Geographic Areas are in the list with the Libraries
> and is likely going to be a source of confusion if it remains that way.
> >>
> >> Everything else I feel works how I would expect it to work, and I can't
> really think of anything that I'd make a change to right off. I'm going to
> keep toying around with things in any case.
> >>
> >> As for Justin's comments, I tend to agree with his assessment for the
> most part. -7 in particular would be great to have. Some of our libraries
> have features specific to their subdomain that would be great to see
> included for their patrons. I'm not sure what all bleeds through to the
> app, but if anything does they'd want to keep it available. Electronic
> Resources are definitely a must, series/subject headings being links would
> be fantastic, and yes please to barcode searching.
> >>
> >> Overall, I like the app, and I'm looking forward to being able to show
> it off to the rest of my consortium. I really appreciate all of the work
> that you have put into this app, and I look forward to continue helping
> test it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Geoff Sams
> >> Library Manager
> >> Roanoke Public Library
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Open-ils-dev [mailto:
> open-ils-dev-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Justin
> Hopkins ??
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:40 PM
> >> To: Evergreen Development Discussion List <
> open-ils-dev at list.georgialibraries.org>
> >> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Beta App Feedback
> >>
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> So awesome. It feels cool just to log in and use the app. I know I
> speak for everyone when I say how much we appreciate your hard work on this.
> >>
> >> From my limited experience so far I'd offer the following:
> >>
> >> [-7]: Perhaps we could use another, or expand on the .json file so that
> we could include all libraries in a given consortium/system for a more fine
> grained GPS based library suggestion
> >> [-6]: Add the consortium level as an option for search scope
> >> [-5]: Along the same lines, make user preferences already stored in
> Evergreen accessible/applicable (default locations, etc) or store new
> preferences for the app
> >> [-4]: Show some indication of consortium/system/branch levels in
> location dropdowns. It's not clear what is a system and what is a branch,
> and could make it too easy to set a system as the pickup location. I'm not
> sure how that would resolve.
> >> [-3]: Electronic resources don't display their 856 links
> >> [-2]: Subject and series information on the record pages could be links
> >> [-1]: A common feature among library apps, or apps where searching for
> books is a likely operation, is a barcode search - I think that would be a
> nice addition.
> >>
> >> Thanks again! I'm looking forward to playing around with this and
> putting it more to use.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Justin
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Ken
>
>
>
> --
> Benjamin Shum
> Evergreen Systems Manager
> Bibliomation, Inc.
> 24 Wooster Ave.
> Waterbury, CT 06708
> 203-577-4070, ext. 113
>
--
-Ken
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