Some questions on Evergeen (was: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 226subscribers)

Fri Mar 23 09:14:55 EDT 2007

I expect that to be plenty of power.  The more RAM the better.  For
your situation, you shouldn't need aweful much.  If I recall, you
expect about 4 staff clients and 15 OPAC's?

--Don

On 3/22/07, Paul Bartell <paul.bartell at gmail.com> wrote:
> on the server how much processor power would i need? would an old P3
> 850 MHZ have enough power? or should i buy new hardware?
>
> On 3/22/07, Don McMorris <don.mcmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not knowing the exact specs off hand, I think it wouldn't be much.  A
> > single server should be sufficient.  I would say, at minimum, 512MB
> > RAM would be suggested (mostly for database performance).  Other than
> > that, I don't think a ton is required.  "The Guys" will confirm this.
> > The most prevalent distro for Evergreen is currently Debian.
> >
> > The client runs in XULRunner (although it could technically run in
> > Firefox or Mozilla, and it actually did back in the Alpha days ;)).
> > XULRunner is Open Source, and binaries for Linux, Windows, MacOS-X,
> > and the like exist.  The client would process HTML and JavaScript, and
> > that's pretty much it! The majority of the processing happens on the
> > server.
> >
> > A demo of the staff client is available at
> > http://www.open-ils.org/cvs.html.  demo.gapines.org is the current
> > stable version of the ILS; dev.gapines.org is the "bleeding edge".
> > There will be certificate issues  and some performance issues with
> > this which should be kept in mind (remember, when you implement it,
> > you will have a valid certificate [even if it's self-signed] and will
> > likely be running over a LAN connection).
> >
> > Evergreen is _very_ scalable also! If you so desired, you could have
> > your "main" server and have a separate server for your OPAC to split
> > the load.  Or, if you wanted high availability, you could have 2 main
> > servers with some failover methods.  In the Blog archive is a "tour"
> > of the datacenter for PINES.  As I recall, it has some 30+ "worker"
> > servers, a couple load balancers, a couple database servers, some SAN
> > storage, a logger server, and the like.
> >
> > Of course, this support 250+ libraries.  Chances are, a single server
> > would meet your needs, or a mini-cluster of 3-4 computers could make
> > your system highly available and load balanced (say, 2 for the staff,
> > 1 for the PAC, and 1 for services such as Z39.50... or all running in
> > nearly identical configurations with an external load balancer).
> >
> > The beauty of Evergreen is that it's flexible!
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> > --Don
> >
> > PS: Did I mention I'm occasionally long-winded? ;)
> >
> > On 3/22/07, Paul Bartell <paul.bartell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > well funding is pretty much set at a certain level, as its a school.
> > > the library gets the hand-me-down computers from the computer lab. (
> > > about every 4-6 years). They currently have a Windows server (running
> > > Accelerated Reader and the Current ILS), but i will set up a linux
> > > one. just curious, what specs would we need for one checkout desk, a
> > > computer editing records sometimes, and about 15-20 workstations
> > > accessing the database (4 at most simultaneously)?
> > >
> > > On 3/22/07, Deanna  Frazee <dfrazee at ci.killeen.tx.us> wrote:
> > > > Actually, it can be stored in any of several fields.  We store it in tag 949, subfield b.  Other subfields in that tag have the other holdings information such as vendor, call number, price, item type, copy number, collection code, and a few others.
> > > >
> > > > In addition to bib and holdings information, you need to consider exporting your borrower information so that you do not have to recreate it from scratch.  Aside from the obvious reason of saving time by not having to recreate records, the data may be very important statistically.  And statistics can be directly related to improved funding, which we all need.
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents worth,
> > > > Deanna
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org on behalf of Don McMorris
> > > > Sent: Thu 3/22/2007 8:17 PM
> > > > To: open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Some questions on Evergeen (was: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 226subscribers)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Full-blown MARC21 includes holdings information in some of the 800
> > > > fields (I forget the exact ones... I think it's 850-something).
> > > > Whether or not your ILS follows this standard or not, I don't know...
> > > >
> > > > On 3/22/07, Paul Bartell <paul.bartell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > We can export to MARK21, but does MARK21 include the barcodes of the items?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/22/07, Don McMorris <don.mcmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Paul.  You have some good questions, and I'm sure there's other
> > > > > > interest.  I've forked the thread (the topic has changed, after all).
> > > > > > If you have any further questions or follow up, please don't hesitate
> > > > > > to respond on-list!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/22/07, Paul Bartell <paul.bartell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Well, im a kid that is interested in computers (Open source
> > > > > > > especially), and want to try and get my school library using
> > > > > > > Evergreen. I would be interested to know weather it would be the best
> > > > > > > choice for a small library like this. (~450 patrons).
> > > > > > -- This really depends on your other requirements and the capabilities
> > > > > > of your administrators'.  If you're well capable and need/want the
> > > > > > features of an enterprise-grade ILS without the cost, Evergreen will
> > > > > > probably be a good fit (note: I should mention that there are vendors'
> > > > > > whom you can contract with to support Evergreen if need be).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > and how people
> > > > > > > would be able to print barcodes,
> > > > > > -- I don't recall if Evergreen has a barcode printing functionality
> > > > > > built-in yet.  There are many third-party suppliers whom you can
> > > > > > purchase pre-made barcodes from.  You would simply attach a barcode to
> > > > > > the item, and then attach this barcode number to the item record in
> > > > > > the ILS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > and how you can assign a book a new
> > > > > > > barcode, when it gets worn out.
> > > > > > -- This is EXTREMELY easy (provided the person has the privileges to
> > > > > > do so).  Simply edit the item record and change the barcode number.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also would it be possible to not have
> > > > > > > to re enter all the data about how many of each book they have.(im not
> > > > > > > a big fan of data entry)
> > > > > > This depends on your current system.  Even if your current system
> > > > > > can't export the items' into a standard format, there are vendors' out
> > > > > > there who will convert your non-standard export into a standard format
> > > > > > (shucks... I forget what the term is right now... It'll come to me
> > > > > > just after I hit send!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > "If you are savvy and smart about the choices you make in life, The
> > > > > > > sky is not the limit!"
> > > > > > > Mark Shuttleworth
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you or anybody else has any questions, PLEASE do NOT hesitate to contact us!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Don
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > sky is not the limit!"
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> > > sky is not the limit!"
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> sky is not the limit!"
> Mark Shuttleworth
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