[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Arabic in Evergreen

[Christoph Schilling]

Hi Dan,
I am very glad that there seems to be a way out, I also saw on the
roadmap for the 2.0 release Arabic is on the list of the staff client
language sets. Great! Maybe I should soon move to the new release.
> 1) Some sample Arabic MARC records (ideally, licensed so that we can
> add them to our test datasets)
>   
I was working on a Mark record from the LC. I am just trying to figure
out how Arabic Marc records function since there seems to be not a very
functioning  consense when I look into how  western libraries do it and
how libraries in the Arab world do it.
I hope to still add some records in the coming days. How do I export
them from evergreen to send them to you? (sorry for the simple question)


> 2) A screenshot of how the text in the records should appear (perhaps
> copy the text into a text editor or whatever application displays it
> properly).
>
>   
That is how it should look like:

100 1 #‡6 880-01 ‡a Tūnjī, Muḥammad.

880 1 #‡6 100-01/(3/r‏ ‡a‏تونجي, محمد

245 1 3 #‡6 880-02 ‡a al-Muʻarrab wa-al-dakhīl fī al-lughah al-ʻArabīyah
wa-ādābihā / ‡c taʼlīf Muḥammad al-Tūnjī.

880 1 2 #‡6 245-02/(3/r/‏ ‡a &#x200fالمعرب والدخيل في اللغة
العربية وآدابها /&#٬٢٠٠ن؛ ‡c ‏تأليف محمد التونجي.


Here is a screenshot in case your email has no Arabic support:

Arabic letters joined together

remark: I was not able to find out all of the code's meaning. The
&#x200f might just be a code for a sign in a non-latin script since
&#x02bc probably represents a sign like ’ representing an Arabic letter
(Hamzat qat'a) in transcript. (see line 245 ‡c)

When I copied the text from the Mark Editor Import Page which looked
like the you see in the screenshot, the letters connected to each other
as I pasted it into my openoffice sheet.


> 3) A screenshot of how Evergreen displays the MARC record for
> comparison.
>
>   
Marc record from LC Arabic letters not joined in evergreen


Thanks a lot for your help!
Christoph



Dan Scott schrieb am 03.03.2011 05:22:
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 11:06:05AM +0300, Christoph Schilling wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>> I looked at the mail archive and found that there is no support for
>> arabic in evergreen though three years ago I thought I heard that
>> evergreen would support also Arabic with unicode.
>>
>> I tried to create a Marc record in Arabic. The problem seems to be the
>> joining together of  the Arabic letters.
>> When I looked at already existing Marc records from the library of
>> Congress the same picuture: the letters are in the right order, but they
>> are not joined together.
>>
>> Are there any plans to add the possibility of Arabic Marc records to
>> Evergreen?
>>     
>
> Hi Christopher:
>
> Can you can help us help you, by providing:
>
> 1) Some sample Arabic MARC records (ideally, licensed so that we can
> add them to our test datasets)
>
> 2) A screenshot of how the text in the records should appear (perhaps
> copy the text into a text editor or whatever application displays it
> properly).
>
> 3) A screenshot of how Evergreen displays the MARC record for
> comparison.
>
> We have some ideas about possible reasons for the problems that you're
> seeing (NFC vs. NFD normalization forms, or the fonts used in the
> default Evergreen displays), and given good sample MARC records to work
> with and a target to shoot for, we might be able to provide a solution
> quickly.
>
> Of course, I can't make any promises! But it's worth a try.
>
> Dan
>
>   
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