[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [Evergreen-web-team] adding a page to the wiki
Ben Shum
bshum at biblio.org
Fri Apr 6 19:25:40 EDT 2012
Been swamped with an upgrade recently and didn't get a chance to poke at
getting some attention on this yet.
Anoop around to poke at this?
-- Ben
On 3/30/2012 9:24 PM, Ben Shum wrote:
> Wow, those Webalizer stats are from Penguin (the web server before the
> current one and haven't been updated since April 2011). I guess
> that's when Anoop setup Piwik to begin tracking data, cause it looks
> like we have web stats from May 2011 forward on the new server.
> Personally Piwik > Webalizer. :)
>
> RE: original topic (might be time for a new thread?)... I can add a
> new link, but feel obliged to point out that renaming existing links
> to pages may require further scrutiny of the associated pages those
> links point to. We'll need to carefully review what the link
> currently is named, what page it's pointing to, and what changes need
> to be made to the page in order to accommodate the new link name. Or
> alternatively, compose entirely new page information for certain new
> concepts. An example of that is that I think there would need to be a
> "Community" landing page that incorporates some short summary of what
> the Evergreen Community is about and how the various other pages tie
> into it (Mailing List, etc.). Probably easily adapted from the
> current Communicate page, but this would have to be done for each menu
> link renamed for consistency.
>
> Also, adding a new link option or altering the menu options in the
> planet Evergreen blog is currently administrated by Dan Scott, so he'd
> also need to be informed of any necessary changes on his end in order
> to affect a less jarring disparity between the Evergreen website and
> the planet Evergreen blog site.
>
> If Anoop doesn't get to it before I do, I'll give this a closer look
> early next week.
>
> -- Ben
>
> On 3/30/12 7:45 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre wrote:
>> We do have this: http://evergreen-ils.org/webalizer/
>>
>> According to the Web Team's survey, the most frequently accessed
>> pages (based on what people said they do) are the
>> '
>> Official Documentation and the Mailing lists (both at 62.9%)
>> Downloads and Informal Documentation (wiki) both at 60%
>> Official Blog (40%)
>> Community blogs (37%)
>> Search and FAQs (both 34%)
>> Process Documentation (31%)
>> Chat (28%)
>> Develop Code and Report Bugs and Calendar (all 20%)
>> Committees and Working Gruops (14%)
>> About Us (8%)
>>
>> See
>> http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=webteam:egwebsite_surveysummary_03172011.pdf
>>
>> More on what we learned about what the community wants is here:
>> http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=webteam
>>
>> Can we go ahead and change the top level menus so we can incorporate
>> the User Group stuff. Then we can fuss with the order later if need
>> be. And if so, Ben or Anoop, can you make the changes?
>>
>> Lori
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Ben Shum <bshum at biblio.org
>> <mailto:bshum at biblio.org>> wrote:
>>
>> An interesting thought actually. We *do* have Piwik analytics
>> tracking activity on the Evergreen website (see
>> http://evergreen-ils.org/piwik)
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure how best to read the data, but it does give
>> us some basic information about which pages people are looking
>> at. I'll have to ask Anoop about administration of the Piwik
>> instance, it looks like we're running on an older version still
>> and I'm not sure if we're running any of the cron jobs to compile
>> the statistical data for yearly, etc.
>>
>> If you click on the "Actions" tab, then go to "Pages", you can
>> view the top pageviews / unique pageviews per page of the
>> website. This doesn't necessarily mean people are clicking
>> through the menu to these pages (we don't see to have specific
>> actions setup for tracking yet as "Goals"), but it might be a
>> general indication of what people are looking at most often for a
>> given time period (by default it shows you the current date).
>>
>> Fun thing I enjoy doing is occasionally peeking at the dashboard
>> entry for Visitor Countries to see if we had any new
>> international visits :)
>>
>> Either way, maybe we can use some of the data collected there to
>> come up with a "most viewed" list order?
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>>
>> On 3/30/2012 6:48 PM, Tara Robertson wrote:
>>> I might have missed this earlier, but are analytics set up on
>>> the site? What are the most common things people are looking for
>>> and using?
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone for your work on this!!!
>>> tara
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre
>>> <lori.ayre at galecia.com <mailto:lori.ayre at galecia.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But to address your other point. I didn't work particularly
>>> hard on order of the items on the menu. I"m open to
>>> suggestions. Alpha didn't seem quite right so I was trying
>>> to do something like...most commonly clicked upon at the top
>>> of the list (based on my own theories...no data).
>>>
>>> Lori
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Ben Shum <bshum at biblio.org
>>> <mailto:bshum at biblio.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Course after I hit send, I realize that the wording was
>>> altered to "Donate to Evergreen" instead for the
>>> specific example I selected of a "missing link".
>>>
>>> Sorry about that, my mistake.
>>>
>>> -- Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/30/2012 04:13 PM, Ben Shum wrote:
>>>> Neat this sounds great! But curious on some technical
>>>> details...
>>>>
>>>> The order specified for Community and Contribute menu
>>>> links are different than the existing entries on the
>>>> site (and it's missing some of the links too, like the
>>>> "Support Evergreen" link under current Contribute).
>>>>
>>>> Has there been further discussion in other threads
>>>> about the menu links and what's included and/or the
>>>> order for them?
>>>>
>>>> Will these changes also affect the landing pages
>>>> associated with the links? Should communicate.php now
>>>> instead be community.php page, with appropriate page
>>>> title, links on that page changed, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -- Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/30/2012 12:43 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre wrote:
>>>>> Hi Kathy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea, I was torn about the Chat language. Thanks for
>>>>> the feedback. I'm happy to go with your changes. So
>>>>> that would be:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _Community_
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailing Lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Official Blog
>>>>>
>>>>> Community Blogs
>>>>>
>>>>> Users Groups (note new addition)
>>>>>
>>>>> Calendar
>>>>>
>>>>> _Contribute_
>>>>>
>>>>> Develop Code
>>>>>
>>>>> Report Bugs
>>>>>
>>>>> Donate to Evergreen
>>>>>
>>>>> Committees and Working Groups
>>>>>
>>>>> Request Feature
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Kathy Lussier
>>>>> <klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lori,
>>>>>
>>>>> I like using community and contribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I would be inclined to put Chat under
>>>>> community rather than contribute. Also, I prefer
>>>>> the old language “chat” to calling it a “Developer
>>>>> Chatroom”. There are non-developers who
>>>>> participate or just lurk in IRC, and I wouldn’t
>>>>> want to discourage other non-developers from doing
>>>>> the same. It’s also used for DIG, reports task
>>>>> force, and community meetings, so I would say the
>>>>> audience goes beyond developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, it looks good to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Kathy Lussier
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Coordinator
>>>>>
>>>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>>>>>
>>>>> (508) 756-0172 <tel:%28508%29%20756-0172>
>>>>>
>>>>> (508) 755-3721 <tel:%28508%29%20755-3721> (fax)
>>>>>
>>>>> klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> IM: kmlussier (AOL & Yahoo)
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org
>>>>> <mailto:evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org>
>>>>> [mailto:evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org
>>>>> <mailto:evergreen-web-team-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org>]
>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Lori Bowen Ayre
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 12:20 PM
>>>>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group; Evergreen
>>>>> Community Web Team Email List
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-web-team]
>>>>> [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] adding a page to the wiki
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I propose for changing the Menus on
>>>>> the Evergreen Home page. Instead of Communicate
>>>>> and Contribute, we make them Community and Contribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I think should be under Community:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailing Lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Official Blog
>>>>>
>>>>> Community Blogs
>>>>>
>>>>> Users Groups (note new addition)
>>>>>
>>>>> Calendar
>>>>>
>>>>> Under Contribute:
>>>>>
>>>>> Develop Code
>>>>>
>>>>> Report Bugs
>>>>>
>>>>> Developer Chatroom (note new language and new
>>>>> position on menu)
>>>>>
>>>>> Donate to Evergreen (note this is slightly
>>>>> different language)
>>>>>
>>>>> Committees and Working Groups
>>>>>
>>>>> Request Feature (note new language)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori Bowen Ayre //
>>>>>
>>>>> Library Technology Consultant / The Galecia Group
>>>>>
>>>>> Oversight Board & Communications Committee / Evergreen
>>>>>
>>>>> (707) 763-6869 <tel:%28707%29%20763-6869> //
>>>>> Lori.Ayre at galecia.com <mailto:Lori.Ayre at galecia.com>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Gordana Vitez
>>>>> <gvitez at niagaracollege.ca
>>>>> <mailto:gvitez at niagaracollege.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Drupal has a section called "community" and under
>>>>> that:
>>>>>
>>>>> Online and local groups
>>>>>
>>>>> Events and Meetups
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat (IRC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Planet Drupal
>>>>>
>>>>> Community Spotlight
>>>>>
>>>>> Commercial Support
>>>>>
>>>>> Forum
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailing Lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the "Community" would encapsulate what we
>>>>> are trying to do as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> On 3/27/2012 at 5:16 PM, in message
>>>>> <CAJcoVMj=53WVyt-SYjii-qBU7MyaYm-YXe=JQQAN+PhgiO+d9A at mail.gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:JQQAN%2BPhgiO%2Bd9A at mail.gmail.com>>, Dan
>>>>> Scott <dan at coffeecode.net
>>>>> <mailto:dan at coffeecode.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I love the idea to have user group info in the wiki!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a little concerned about moving from
>>>>> "Communicate" to
>>>>> "Participate", because the latter seems closer in
>>>>> meaning to
>>>>> "Contribute" and thus muddies the navigation a bit
>>>>> to my mind. But I
>>>>> guess one could argue that to communicate is to
>>>>> contribute, so things
>>>>> are already muddy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone checked what other projects (that we
>>>>> admire for their
>>>>> community support & clarity of their web site) do?
>>>>> Drupal.org &
>>>>> Fedoraproject.org have some interesting
>>>>> similarities in their
>>>>> navigation wording choices...
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre
>>>>> <lori.ayre at galecia.com
>>>>> <mailto:lori.ayre at galecia.com>> wrote:
>>>>> > Yep, Ben. That's the idea. Some of the Web Team
>>>>> folks have also already
>>>>> > +1'd the idea. Anyone object?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lori
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ben Shum
>>>>> <bshum at biblio.org <mailto:bshum at biblio.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi Gordana,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Just to clarify, you and Lori are referring to
>>>>> the navigation menu options
>>>>> >> on the main Evergreen website?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think it's a great idea to modify those areas
>>>>> to include references to a
>>>>> >> User Group page including the one you've started up.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Curious to hear feedback from others on this.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -- Ben
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 03/27/2012 04:25 PM, Gordana Vitez wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi there,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The Evergreen libraries in Niagara have been
>>>>> hosting a number of user
>>>>> >> group meetings for Evergreen users in Southern
>>>>> Ontario. Of course, it's not
>>>>> >> limited to the geographic area...we'd love to
>>>>> see everyone from all over!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Nevertheless, we'd like to add our info to the
>>>>> wiki and Lori Bowen Ayre
>>>>> >> suggested that we change the main menu from
>>>>> "Communicate" to "Participate"
>>>>> >> and add a "User Group" page off that dropdown.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Does anyone mind that change?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks!
>>>>> >> Gordana
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Gordana Vitez
>>>>> >> Library Services & Systems Coordinator
>>>>> >> NC Libraries and Learning Commons
>>>>> >> Niagara College
>>>>> >> 300 Woodlawn Rd
>>>>> >> Welland Ontario
>>>>> >> L3C 7L3
>>>>> >> Phone: (905) 735 2211 ext 7404
>>>>> <tel:%28905%29%20735%202211%20ext%207404>
>>>>> >> Fax: (905) 736 6021 <tel:%28905%29%20736%206021>
>>>>> >> gvitez at niagaracollege.ca
>>>>> <mailto:gvitez at niagaracollege.ca>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Benjamin Shum
>>>>> >> Open Source Software Coordinator
>>>>> >> Bibliomation, Inc.
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Benjamin Shum
>>>> Open Source Software Coordinator
>>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>>> 32 Crest Road
>>>> Middlebury, CT 06762
>>>> 203-577-4070, ext. 113 <tel:203-577-4070%2C%20ext.%20113>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Benjamin Shum
>>> Open Source Software Coordinator
>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>> 32 Crest Road
>>> Middlebury, CT 06762
>>> 203-577-4070, ext. 113 <tel:203-577-4070%2C%20ext.%20113>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Benjamin Shum
>> Open Source Software Coordinator
>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>> 32 Crest Road
>> Middlebury, CT 06762
>> 203-577-4070, ext. 113 <tel:203-577-4070%2C%20ext.%20113>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Benjamin Shum
> Open Source Software Coordinator
> Bibliomation, Inc.
> 32 Crest Road
> Middlebury, CT 06762
> 203-577-4070, ext. 113
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Benjamin Shum
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Bibliomation, Inc.
32 Crest Road
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