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ove certain functions entirely out of the staff client will be easier to ex=
plain to them than letting them stick with the client with these new interf=
aces. It's going to be painful for them regardless, but I'd rather rip off=
the bandaid than slowly peel it back.
Kate Butler
Technology Librarian
Rodgers Memorial Library (Hudson, NH)
http://www.rodgerslibrary.org/
From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-g=
eneral-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 10:40 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Cc: Evergreen Development Discussion List
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] browser staff feedback request / integratio=
n
At the Hack-A-Way we discussed the piecemeal method of integrating the new =
staff client into the XUL app as a way of easing people into it. I've alwa=
ys been OK with that approach but I don't prefer it. I think we would wast=
e precious resources trying to frankenstein them.
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Dan Scott <dan at coffeecode.net<mailto:dan at c=
offeecode.net>> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:25:56AM -0400, McCanna, Terran wrote:
My preference would be to leave the existing client as is (with the excepti=
on of bug fixes, etc.), but to offer the browser-based modules as options o=
nce they become available. My reasons for this are:
1) It will allow for indepth use of the new module in a production environm=
ent to uncover any bugs or performance issues while still having a known en=
tity as a backup. No amount of testing is going to uncover all of the odd l=
ittle problems like working in a live environment will.
2) When moving back and forth between the two environments, staff will be m=
ore aware of the improved user interface and performance, and I believe the=
y will be more eager to transition completely to the new environment.
3) The browser-based circulation module may offer some immediate relief to =
those frontline circ staff who are struggling with antiquated machines and =
slow networks.
4) The new modules can begin to be thoroughly tested on mobile devices that=
cannot run the current client.
+1 to what Terran says. Let's forgo the complications of trying to force
new-style development into an aging security / performance /
functionality-impaired container and instead focus on fleshing out the
browser-based modules on a workflow-by-workflow basis as much as
possible, so that some staff (as Terran says) can benefit ASAP and
help us find where we can optimize workflows or where we've missed yet
another piece of existing functionality that most sites don't use but
that is critical to another site's workflow.
--
Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop=
reading them."
=AF Ray Bradbury<https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury>
"You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit =
me."
=AF C.S. Lewis<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis>
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irely out of the staff client will be easier to explain
to them than letting them stick with the client with these new interfaces.=
It’s going to be painful for them regardless, but I’d ra=
ther rip off the bandaid than slowly peel it back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Technology Librarian<o:p>=
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ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> open-ils=
-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces=
@list.georgialibraries.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rogan Hamby<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 04, 2014 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evergreen Discussion Group<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Evergreen Development Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] browser staff feedback request / int=
egration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">At the Hack-A-Way we discussed the piecemeal method =
of integrating the new staff client into the XUL app as a way of easing peo=
ple into it. I've always been OK with that approach but I don't prefe=
r it. I think we would waste precious
resources trying to frankenstein them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Dan Scott <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dan at coffeecode.net" target=3D"_blank">dan at coffeecode.net</a>&g=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:25:56AM -0400, McCanna, T=
erran wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My preference would be to leave the existing client =
as is (with the exception of bug fixes, etc.), but to offer the browser-bas=
ed modules as options once they become available. My reasons for this are:<=
br>
<br>
1) It will allow for indepth use of the new module in a production environm=
ent to uncover any bugs or performance issues while still having a known en=
tity as a backup. No amount of testing is going to uncover all of the odd l=
ittle problems like working in a
live environment will.<br>
<br>
2) When moving back and forth between the two environments, staff will be m=
ore aware of the improved user interface and performance, and I believe the=
y will be more eager to transition completely to the new environment.<br>
<br>
3) The browser-based circulation module may offer some immediate relief to =
those frontline circ staff who are struggling with antiquated machines and =
slow networks.<br>
<br>
4) The new modules can begin to be thoroughly tested on mobile devices that=
cannot run the current client.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">+1 to what Terran says. Let's forgo the complica=
tions of trying to force<br>
new-style development into an aging security / performance /<br>
functionality-impaired container and instead focus on fleshing out the<br>
browser-based modules on a workflow-by-workflow basis as much as<br>
possible, so that some staff (as Terran says) can benefit ASAP and<br>
help us find where we can optimize workflows or where we've missed yet<br>
another piece of existing functionality that most sites don't use but<br>
that is critical to another site's workflow.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services=
, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">York County Library System<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ge=
orgia","serif";color:#181818">“You don't have to burn =
books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.”&nb=
sp;<br>
=AF </span><a href=3D"https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_B=
radbury" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Georgia","serif";color:#666600;text-decoration:none">Ray B=
radbury</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ge=
orgia","serif";color:#181818;background:white">“You ca=
n never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.R=
21; </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia&q=
uot;,"serif";color:#181818"><br>
<span style=3D"background:white">=AF </span></span><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis" target=3D"_blank"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";co=
lor:#666600;background:white">C.S. Lewis</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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