[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Unique bar codes - FYI
Nancy Grant
nbgrant at msad41.us
Thu Oct 11 14:08:05 EDT 2012
Maine State Library has a page devoted to the unique bar codes used by each
library in the state. Many of the bar codes start with the zip code of the
library - small towns often only have one library.
http://maine.gov/infonet/barcodes.htm
Thus, if we all eventually get on one Evergreen database in Maine, we do
not have to re-bar code to have unique numbers.
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> From: Sue Graziano <grazianos at santacruzpl.org>
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Collection HQ and Evergreen
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> Hello all,
>
> Santa Cruz Public Libraries is using Collection HQ. However, I don't have
> any experience extracting MARC or CSV data, and at this point, we haven't
> had the need. I'd suggest you talk to support at Collection HQ.
>
> We began using Collection HQ in January. We've been very pleased with the
> weeding reports it generates, although getting our collection up to CHQ is
> going to take us quite a while. I've used it for several statistical
> reports since I couldn't (yet) get the data from Evergreen. What I haven't
> yet been able to extract for CHQ or Evergreen (yet) are circulation reports
> for a specific periods.
>
> --
> Sue Graziano
> Collection Development Librarian
> Santa Cruz Public Libraries
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> grazianos at santacruzpl.org
> (831) 427-7700 x7725
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> From: Andrew Morton <andymorton at btinternet.com>
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Importing from ISBN
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
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> So are you saying that there is no unique way to identify a publication?
> Sort of seems like isbn is useless if that is the case....
>
> Andrew
>
>
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> On 11 Oct 2012, at 15:31, "Hardy, Elaine" <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> wrote:
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> > ISBNs are not matching points. Publishers re-use the all the time, for
> > example (this is a particular problem with children's nonfiction series
> > publishers). You may reach a point where they will no longer tally with
> > the item in hand. Also, older books will not have ISBNs, so depending on
> > the overall collection in your library, you may find that ISBNs are not
> > dependable.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES Bibliographic Projects & Metadata Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste 150
> > Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304
> >
> > 404.235-7128
> > 404.235-7201, fax
> > ehardy at georgialibraries.org
> > www.georgialibraries.org
> > www.georgialibraries.org/pines
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
> > [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
> > Andrew Morton
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:36 PM
> > To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Importing from ISBN
> >
> > Yea.
> > They all seem to tally to the ISBN....
> >
> > btw, im on a mac, so marcedit may not be available...
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> > On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:59, Jason Etheridge wrote:
> >
> >>> I was thinking that using the fast item add feature in Evergreen's
> >>> z39.50 workflow might be what makes it faster than batch loading the
> >>> bibs and adding holdings separately.
> >>
> >> Ah, I can see that. Andrew, are you getting unique barcodes for all
> > your books?
> >>
> >> -- Jason
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> From: Jason Etheridge <jason at esilibrary.com>
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> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andrew Morton
> <andymorton at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > So are you saying that there is no unique way to identify a publication?
> > Sort of seems like isbn is useless if that is the case....
>
> It's useful enough for the purpose that "added content" vendors rely
> on it for providing libraries reviews, jacket images, etc.
>
> It's just not perfect by a longshot, and if you're using them as item
> barcodes, you'll probably hit more complications down the road.
>
> -- Jason
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:41:50 +0100
> From: Andrew Morton <andymorton at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Importing from ISBN
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
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> Jason,
>
> Thanks for the clarification on that- most helpful!
>
> Getting back to the original question on this thread...
> Are we saying that there are 2 methods to add books?
>
> 1) import a batch Marc record. But then it's a manual thing to add it to
> holdings.
> 2) use a z39.50 server to search for it and use a fast add to add it to
> holdings in one step?
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
> On 11 Oct 2012, at 18:22, Jason Etheridge <jason at esilibrary.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andrew Morton
> > <andymorton at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> So are you saying that there is no unique way to identify a publication?
> >> Sort of seems like isbn is useless if that is the case....
> >
> > It's useful enough for the purpose that "added content" vendors rely
> > on it for providing libraries reviews, jacket images, etc.
> >
> > It's just not perfect by a longshot, and if you're using them as item
> > barcodes, you'll probably hit more complications down the road.
> >
> > -- Jason
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:47:32 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Hardy, Elaine" <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Importing from ISBN
> To: "'Evergreen Discussion Group'"
> <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
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> There are ways to match an item in hand with a MARC bibliographic record.
> Catalogers use a combination of fields to do so. ISBNs are finding aids and
> can point you to the correct record but cannot stand by themselves. We use
> main title (245), edition (250), publisher (260 b), date of publication
> (260
> c) and pagination (300) as well as other fields for type and format.
>
>
>
> ISBNs aren?t useless, they just aren?t matching points by themselves.
>
>
>
> Elaine
>
> _____
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES Bibliographic Projects & Metadata Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Ste 150
> Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304
>
> 404.235-7128
> 404.235-7201, fax
> ehardy at georgialibraries.org
> www.georgialibraries.org
> www.georgialibraries.org/pines
>
>
>
>
> From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
> [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Morton
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:19 PM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Importing from ISBN
>
>
>
> So are you saying that there is no unique way to identify a publication?
>
> Sort of seems like isbn is useless if that is the case....
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 Oct 2012, at 15:31, "Hardy, Elaine" <ehardy at georgialibraries.org>
> wrote:
>
> ISBNs are not matching points. Publishers re-use the all the time, for
> example (this is a particular problem with children's nonfiction series
> publishers). You may reach a point where they will no longer tally with
> the item in hand. Also, older books will not have ISBNs, so depending on
> the overall collection in your library, you may find that ISBNs are not
> dependable.
>
> Elaine
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES Bibliographic Projects & Metadata Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Ste 150
> Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304
>
> 404.235-7128
> 404.235-7201, fax
> ehardy at georgialibraries.org
> www.georgialibraries.org
> www.georgialibraries.org/pines
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
> [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Morton
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:36 PM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Importing from ISBN
>
> Yea.
> They all seem to tally to the ISBN....
>
> btw, im on a mac, so marcedit may not be available...
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:59, Jason Etheridge wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I was thinking that using the fast item add feature in Evergreen's
>
> z39.50 workflow might be what makes it faster than batch loading the
>
> bibs and adding holdings separately.
>
>
>
> Ah, I can see that. Andrew, are you getting unique barcodes for all
>
> your books?
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Jason
>
>
>
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