[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] I Need Help With Hostname

Wed Mar 6 12:07:08 EST 2013

Hi,

I'm still unclear if you downloaded Evergreen and created you own
installation of Evergreen. This would've taken a little while, or if you
downloaded the client, this would've taken about a minute.

Can you clarify if you set up an Evergreen server, or if you just
downloaded the client?

Thanks,
Tara

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM, K. D. <kd.8 at icloud.com> wrote:

> Hello Jason, Tara and all:
>
> I installed the 2.3 version of evergreen software.  What client version or
> server works with this latest?
>
>  Assuming I want to host this locally, what are the steps to host it
> locally?
>
> As always, thank you for your assistance.
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:55 AM,
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> >   1. Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software Performance Analysis
> >      (Tim Spindler)
> >   2. Re: I Need Help With Hostname (Tara Robertson)
> >   3. Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software Performance Analysis
> >      (Mike Rylander)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:45:27 -0500
> > From: Tim Spindler <tjspindler at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software
> >    Performance Analysis
> > To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> >    <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> > Cc: Evergreen Development Discussion List
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> > Kathy,
> >
> > Are do you want some information like workflows that seem slow?  For
> > instance, just got a report from a library about specific steps they are
> > doing to catalogiing where certain individual processes are slow.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> It was brought to my attention that everyone who may have some input for
> >> this discussion may not have an Evergreen wiki account. In that case,
> >> please feel free to send an e-mail (to the list, not directly to me)
> >> identifying any performance issues you believe should be addressed
> through
> >> a performance evaluation. I'll be happy to add them to the wiki.
> >>
> >> What I'm looking for is:
> >>
> >> 1. Any specific paint points you see in performance.
> >> 2. Any specific questions you think a performance evaluation should
> answer.
> >> 3. Any ideas you might already have regarding causes of performance
> >> problems. In reading through the logs from the "future of the staff
> client"
> >> meeting, I noticed several people said they thought it was important to
> >> bring these ideas together before reaching out to a consultant, and I
> agree
> >> that this is an important first step in the process.
> >>
> >> I posted just a few of our local issues at
> >>
> http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issues
> >> :
> >>
> >> STAFF CLIENT:
> >>
> >> Memory leaks - is there an inherent problem with the technology used in
> >> the staff client (xulrunner, Dojo) that is the source of the memory leak
> >> problem and other performance problems?
> >> Slow retrieval of patron records
> >>
> >> MESSAGING (OPENSRF):
> >> Staff client batch operations (e.g. updates/deletes from copy buckets)
> >>
> >> DATABASE:
> >> Catalog search - is there a way to optimize searching in the catalog so
> >> that users get faster results and are able to start re-implementing
> things
> >> like search.relevance_adjustment to provide boosts to relevance ranking?
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure there are far more pain points out there, so please don't
> >> feel shy about contributing to the list!
> >>
> >>
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kathy Lussier
> >> Project Coordinator
> >> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508)
> 343-0128klussier at masslnc.org
> >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> >>
> >> On 2/25/2013 11:44 AM, Kathy Lussier wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Having heard no objections to proceeding with finding somebody to do a
> >> software performance analysis, I have created a page on the wiki at
> >>
> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issueswherewe can identify the pain points that need further evaluation and add
> >> any questions that we hope a performance analysis might be able to
> answer.
> >>
> >> I have started the list off with some basic issues/questions that have
> >> come up in our own systems. During the future of the staff client
> meeting,
> >> Dan Scott had mentioned that there might be three points of
> attack:client,
> >> opensrf, database.  I thought dividing the list into those three areas
> >> might be a good way to start.
> >>
> >> I'm hoping that all the knowledgeable sys admins out there who have a
> >> stronger understanding of the system architecture than I do can build
> this
> >> list into something that might be a good starting point for any
> performance
> >> evaluation, whether it's done by a third party or by somebody in the
> >> Evergreen community. By identifying the questions we hope a performance
> >> evaluation might answer, we are also identifying what our expectations
> are
> >> before we enter the process. I would want to be clear on our
> expectations
> >> before formally talking to any third party so that we can be fully
> informed
> >> about whether an evaluation could meet those expectations.
> >>
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >>
> >> Kathy Lussier
> >> Project Coordinator
> >> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508)
> 343-0128klussier at masslnc.org
> >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> >>
> >> On 2/20/2013 2:26 PM, Mike Rylander wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't sure if I should add this to the QA discussion, but it seemed
> >>> worthy of its own thread.
> >>>
> >>> During the "future of the staff client" meeting, I advocated for
> bringing
> >>> in a consultant to do a software performance analysis for Evergreen to
> help
> >>> us identify where the critical bottlenecks are in the system in the
> hopes
> >>> that we could then identify the areas that need to be worked on to
> improve
> >>> performance. At the time, I didn't have any concrete suggestions on
> finding
> >>> a consultant who could take on this project, but I have since done some
> >>> more investigation and have a couple of leads, the most promising of
> which
> >>> is an individual local to Massachusetts who previously worked for many
> >>> years at Stratus Technologies where he was involved in all levels of
> >>> performance analysis. He now teaches graduate-level courses on
> performance
> >>> evaluation and also does contract work.
> >>>
> >>> Now that I actually have concrete leads, I would like to get the ball
> >>> rolling, provided there is support from the larger community. I'm not
> quite
> >>> sure how this might fit in with ESI's planned QA efforts or with the
> >>> possibility of bringing in a firm like OmniTI as Dan suggested, but my
> >>> reading into these QA e-mails is that the focus would be on testing new
> >>> commits.
> >>
> >> I want to clarify something that Dan seems to have assumed incorrectly:
> >> that anything ESI does is mutually exclusive with bringing in outside
> >> expertise.  Nobody has any grounds to stop such an effort, and it would
> >> be ridiculous to argue otherwise, words put into my mouth
> notwithstanding.
> >> The initial focus of an ESI effort will be what exists today, through
> >> infrastructure, so that what exists tomorrow can then be tested.
> >>
> >> As for how it would fit in, ESI would absorb and internalize any advice
> >> or direction, just like any other community member, and work within the
> >> community to incorporate that.
> >>
> >> So, why have ESI involved at all?  Besides the fact that we create a
> >> significant portion of the code, and that it benefits us as much as
> anyone
> >> to have a more stable Evergreen, there is a need for ongoing, active
> >> leadership in QA.  The fact is that it has not materialized yet, so
> we're
> >> looking for a way to make that a maintainable proposition for the
> >> community's benefit.  That means ongoing, deep integration with both
> >> developer and user communities.  And that is not something that we can
> >> expect from OmniTI or any other organization that is not plugged into
> those
> >> communities.  Could some other organization step into that role, and
> >> provide years of ongoing QA support?  Perhaps so, but ESI exists today
> and
> >> has the Evergreen expertise needed to avoid long (and costly) ramp-up
> time.
> >>
> >> The point is this, though, ESI will encourage any effort to improve
> >> Evergreen, and is willing and able to work in the community, as we
> always
> >> do, to further those efforts.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Kathy!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Rylander
> >> | Director of Research and Development
> >> | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source
> >> | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> >> | email:  miker at esilibrary.com
> >> | web:  http://www.esilibrary.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tim Spindler
> > tjspindler at gmail.com
> >
> > *P**   Go Green - **Save a tree! Please don't print this e-mail unless
> it's
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> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:50:28 -0800
> > From: Tara Robertson <information.detective at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] I Need Help With Hostname
> > To: Evergreen Discussion Group
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> > Hi,
> >
> > My hunch also is that you might have just downloaded the client. There
> are
> > some community Evergreen servers:
> >
> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community_servers#community_demo_serversCan
> > you connect to any of them from your computer?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tara
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jason Stephenson <jstephenson at mvlc.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Quoting "K. D." <kd.8 at icloud.com>:
> >>
> >> Hi Steve Wills and Alexey Lazar:
> >>>
> >>> I installed the software on Windows 7.  Command HOSTNAME does not tell
> me
> >>> anything.  I am currently using local host.  I do appreciate your
> support.
> >> You need a server to connect to. It sounds like you have downloaded the
> >> client. The client by itself is useless without a server.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jason Stephenson
> >> Assistant Director for Technology Services
> >> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
> >> Chief Bug Wrangler, Evergreen ILS
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:55:01 -0500
> > From: Mike Rylander <mrylander at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Evergreen & Software
> >    Performance Analysis
> > To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> >    <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> > Cc: Evergreen Development Discussion List
> >    <open-ils-dev at list.georgialibraries.org>
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> >
> > Thanks, Kathy, this is great!  I've filled in some info that ESI has
> > gathered and experiments toward resolution we've performed.  We'll work
> to
> > keep this up to date with any progress we make.
> >
> > --miker
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> It was brought to my attention that everyone who may have some input for
> >> this discussion may not have an Evergreen wiki account. In that case,
> >> please feel free to send an e-mail (to the list, not directly to me)
> >> identifying any performance issues you believe should be addressed
> through
> >> a performance evaluation. I'll be happy to add them to the wiki.
> >>
> >> What I'm looking for is:
> >>
> >> 1. Any specific paint points you see in performance.
> >> 2. Any specific questions you think a performance evaluation should
> answer.
> >> 3. Any ideas you might already have regarding causes of performance
> >> problems. In reading through the logs from the "future of the staff
> client"
> >> meeting, I noticed several people said they thought it was important to
> >> bring these ideas together before reaching out to a consultant, and I
> agree
> >> that this is an important first step in the process.
> >>
> >> I posted just a few of our local issues at
> >>
> http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issues
> >> :
> >>
> >> STAFF CLIENT:
> >>
> >> Memory leaks - is there an inherent problem with the technology used in
> >> the staff client (xulrunner, Dojo) that is the source of the memory leak
> >> problem and other performance problems?
> >> Slow retrieval of patron records
> >>
> >> MESSAGING (OPENSRF):
> >> Staff client batch operations (e.g. updates/deletes from copy buckets)
> >>
> >> DATABASE:
> >> Catalog search - is there a way to optimize searching in the catalog so
> >> that users get faster results and are able to start re-implementing
> things
> >> like search.relevance_adjustment to provide boosts to relevance ranking?
> >>
> >> I'm quite sure there are far more pain points out there, so please don't
> >> feel shy about contributing to the list!
> >>
> >>
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kathy Lussier
> >> Project Coordinator
> >> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508)
> 343-0128klussier at masslnc.org
> >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> >>
> >> On 2/25/2013 11:44 AM, Kathy Lussier wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Having heard no objections to proceeding with finding somebody to do a
> >> software performance analysis, I have created a page on the wiki at
> >>
> http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:testing:performance_issueswherewe can identify the pain points that need further evaluation and add
> >> any questions that we hope a performance analysis might be able to
> answer.
> >>
> >> I have started the list off with some basic issues/questions that have
> >> come up in our own systems. During the future of the staff client
> meeting,
> >> Dan Scott had mentioned that there might be three points of
> attack:client,
> >> opensrf, database.  I thought dividing the list into those three areas
> >> might be a good way to start.
> >>
> >> I'm hoping that all the knowledgeable sys admins out there who have a
> >> stronger understanding of the system architecture than I do can build
> this
> >> list into something that might be a good starting point for any
> performance
> >> evaluation, whether it's done by a third party or by somebody in the
> >> Evergreen community. By identifying the questions we hope a performance
> >> evaluation might answer, we are also identifying what our expectations
> are
> >> before we enter the process. I would want to be clear on our
> expectations
> >> before formally talking to any third party so that we can be fully
> informed
> >> about whether an evaluation could meet those expectations.
> >>
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >>
> >> Kathy Lussier
> >> Project Coordinator
> >> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508)
> 343-0128klussier at masslnc.org
> >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> >>
> >> On 2/20/2013 2:26 PM, Mike Rylander wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't sure if I should add this to the QA discussion, but it seemed
> >>> worthy of its own thread.
> >>>
> >>> During the "future of the staff client" meeting, I advocated for
> bringing
> >>> in a consultant to do a software performance analysis for Evergreen to
> help
> >>> us identify where the critical bottlenecks are in the system in the
> hopes
> >>> that we could then identify the areas that need to be worked on to
> improve
> >>> performance. At the time, I didn't have any concrete suggestions on
> finding
> >>> a consultant who could take on this project, but I have since done some
> >>> more investigation and have a couple of leads, the most promising of
> which
> >>> is an individual local to Massachusetts who previously worked for many
> >>> years at Stratus Technologies where he was involved in all levels of
> >>> performance analysis. He now teaches graduate-level courses on
> performance
> >>> evaluation and also does contract work.
> >>>
> >>> Now that I actually have concrete leads, I would like to get the ball
> >>> rolling, provided there is support from the larger community. I'm not
> quite
> >>> sure how this might fit in with ESI's planned QA efforts or with the
> >>> possibility of bringing in a firm like OmniTI as Dan suggested, but my
> >>> reading into these QA e-mails is that the focus would be on testing new
> >>> commits.
> >>
> >> I want to clarify something that Dan seems to have assumed incorrectly:
> >> that anything ESI does is mutually exclusive with bringing in outside
> >> expertise.  Nobody has any grounds to stop such an effort, and it would
> >> be ridiculous to argue otherwise, words put into my mouth
> notwithstanding.
> >> The initial focus of an ESI effort will be what exists today, through
> >> infrastructure, so that what exists tomorrow can then be tested.
> >>
> >> As for how it would fit in, ESI would absorb and internalize any advice
> >> or direction, just like any other community member, and work within the
> >> community to incorporate that.
> >>
> >> So, why have ESI involved at all?  Besides the fact that we create a
> >> significant portion of the code, and that it benefits us as much as
> anyone
> >> to have a more stable Evergreen, there is a need for ongoing, active
> >> leadership in QA.  The fact is that it has not materialized yet, so
> we're
> >> looking for a way to make that a maintainable proposition for the
> >> community's benefit.  That means ongoing, deep integration with both
> >> developer and user communities.  And that is not something that we can
> >> expect from OmniTI or any other organization that is not plugged into
> those
> >> communities.  Could some other organization step into that role, and
> >> provide years of ongoing QA support?  Perhaps so, but ESI exists today
> and
> >> has the Evergreen expertise needed to avoid long (and costly) ramp-up
> time.
> >>
> >> The point is this, though, ESI will encourage any effort to improve
> >> Evergreen, and is willing and able to work in the community, as we
> always
> >> do, to further those efforts.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Kathy!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Rylander
> >> | Director of Research and Development
> >> | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source
> >> | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> >> | email:  miker at esilibrary.com
> >> | web:  http://www.esilibrary.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Rylander
> > | Director of Research and Development
> > | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source
> > | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> > | email:  miker at esilibrary.com
> > | web:  http://www.esilibrary.com
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