[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56

Fri Mar 28 12:39:30 EDT 2014

Hi,

We use Circ Limit Sets under Local Administration.

I have one named DVD/Video set to a limit of 20.  This applies to a combination of several Circ Modifiers.

I have a second one, Worcester Video Game with a limit of 1.  

I haven't had any problems with the sets acting as a combination limit.

I use only one of the limits in a given Circ Policy.  

I've attached the screen shots if that is helpful.

In the Circ Limit Sets I do not use options for Linked Copy Locations or Linked Limit Groups.

Joan

Joan Kranich
C/W MARS Member Services
jkranich at cwmars.org
508-755-3323 ext. 21

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Jason,

Thank you for your response. I am looking at things from within the staff client and not following everything you are saying, but I do know that our circulation matrix matchpoints are set so that circulation modifiers are ranked at 30 and permission group is ranked at 50. Everything else is set to 0 as we are a single library system with very simple rules governing our circulation.

In essence the problem we are having is that by limiting one circulation modifier to 5 items, every other circ mod that is limited to 5 is treated as one of the 5. So instead of having 5 dvd and 5 magazines checked out at the same time we can only have 5 dvds or 5 magazines or a combination of those items totaling 5.

Deana

Deana Cunningham
Branch Manager, South Branch Library
1550 S. Campus Dr.
Creedmoor, NC 27522
Phone: (919) 528-1752
Fax: (919) 528-1376
deana.cunningham at granvillecounty.org

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   1. Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups (Deana Cunningham)
   2. Re: Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups (Boyer, Jason A)

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Hi all,

We recently migrated from Evergreen 2.3.2 to 2.5.1, and I am having trouble separating out Circulation Limit Sets. In 2.3.2 I had Circulation Limit Sets set up for the majority of our items (books, etc.) at 999 (unlimited). I have Circulation Limit Sets for our DVDs and Magazines (5 items at a time). This should be 5 dvd's and 5 magazines max. However, for some reason the system is seeing them as the same type item (even though I edited the Circulation Limit Sets to include the correct circulation modifiers and broke up the original set "DVD, Magazine" into two separate sets). So if a patron has 5 magazines out they aren't able to check out even one DVD. We also have several other item types that are limited because of their type, and I want the system to be able to distinguish that a patron can have one item of AV equipment and one of our reusable carry bags checked out at the same time - but not two carry bags.

I am also not really clear on the impact of circulation limit groups on these policies. Are "sets" specific to items and "groups" specific to people?

I do not know for a fact that this was working in 2.3.2, as it is rare that this situation arises, but since I discovered it tonight I have had no success in clearing it up. Any advice?

Thanks!

Deana

Deana Cunningham
Branch Manager, South Branch Library
1550 S. Campus Dr.
Creedmoor, NC 27522
Phone: (919) 528-1752
Fax: (919) 528-1376
deana.cunningham at granvillecounty.org
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This is how we've got things set up in Indiana and they seem to be working well:

We don't use the groups for anything. (They're not at all related to user groups, but I'm having a hard time determining the point from a quick glance)

We have 4 entries in config.circ_limit_set: dvds, videos, games, and art. Since they're consortium-wide limits, the owning_lib is the consortium and the depth is 0.

There's an entry in config.circ_limit_set_circ_mod_map for each circ mod affected (i.e. several different dvd-related circ mods tied to the one dvd circ_limit_set)

Entries in config.circ_matrix_limit_set_map tie your limit sets to circ matrix matchpoints. This is where it may become tricky to apply them without having to canvas the whole circ matrix. We only mention circ durations in a single matrix matchpoint for each circ_modifier, so we only have 10 links between limit sets and those few circ matrix rows. (i.e. one from each dvd-related circ mod row to the dvd limit)

We have fallthrough=true on all of them; I think that's to cover the case where the first matching circ matrix row isn't connected to a limit, but $SRC/OpenILS/src/sql/Pg/100.circ_matrix.sql holds the answer to that question.

I'm sure there's much more you could do (and it would get much more complicated if you allow local control) but this is working well for us. I hope it helps!

Jason

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Indiana State Library
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317-234-2128

From: open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deana Cunningham
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:17 PM
To: open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups

Hi all,

We recently migrated from Evergreen 2.3.2 to 2.5.1, and I am having trouble separating out Circulation Limit Sets. In 2.3.2 I had Circulation Limit Sets set up for the majority of our items (books, etc.) at 999 (unlimited). I have Circulation Limit Sets for our DVDs and Magazines (5 items at a time). This should be 5 dvd's and 5 magazines max. However, for some reason the system is seeing them as the same type item (even though I edited the Circulation Limit Sets to include the correct circulation modifiers and broke up the original set "DVD, Magazine" into two separate sets). So if a patron has 5 magazines out they aren't able to check out even one DVD. We also have several other item types that are limited because of their type, and I want the system to be able to distinguish that a patron can have one item of AV equipment and one of our reusable carry bags checked out at the same time - but not two carry bags.

I am also not really clear on the impact of circulation limit groups on these policies. Are "sets" specific to items and "groups" specific to people?

I do not know for a fact that this was working in 2.3.2, as it is rare that this situation arises, but since I discovered it tonight I have had no success in clearing it up. Any advice?

Thanks!

Deana

Deana Cunningham
Branch Manager, South Branch Library
1550 S. Campus Dr.
Creedmoor, NC 27522
Phone: (919) 528-1752
Fax: (919) 528-1376
deana.cunningham at granvillecounty.org<mailto:deana.cunningham at granvillecounty.org>
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