[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Feedback requested on patron editor in web client

[McCanna, Terran]

Thanks Kathy!

The only thing I would add to my earlier comments is that if the floating box stays, it should float on top of everything else, and not run behind.


Terran McCanna 
PINES Program Manager 
Georgia Public Library Service 
1800 Century Place, Suite 150 
Atlanta, GA 30345 
404-235-7138 
tmccanna at georgialibraries.org 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Lussier" <klussier at masslnc.org>
To: open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:38:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Feedback requested on patron editor in web client

Sorry folks! I made the screencast public so that you all can actually 
view it.

Kathy

On 07/09/2015 04:26 PM, McCanna, Terran wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
>
> I'm unable to open your Google link (permission error), but I got a peek at Bill's work a month or so ago and it looked great and it responded very quickly. I know he's made some changes since I saw it last, though, so my comments are based on memory.
>
> 1) In my experience, very few people ever use the view required, suggested or all fields links, and for those people that do, I think having those options at the top would be appropriate.
>
> 2) I don't mind the floating Save and Save/Clone buttons except when they overlap other page elements. I also wouldn't mind having them at the bottom of the form - I understand the point about keeping scrolling to a minimum, but I also like the idea of encouraging staff to review the entire form for errors/incomplete information each time it is updated. I wouldn't want the buttons at the top unless they stuck on screen when the screen was scrolled down. This would be a different approach from any of the other screens, but the floating box is already a different approach than the other screens.
>
> Also - what about the alerts that appear under the Save button if there are matching patron names/addresses? Those tend to overlap on a small resolution monitor in the current client too (not sure if Bill was able to find a better way to display those already).
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Lussier" <klussier at masslnc.org>
> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" <open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:00:44 PM
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Feedback requested on patron editor in web client
>
> Hi all,
>
> MassLNC has been working with Bill Erickson on a project to move the
> patron editor to AngularJS. As with the other pieces of the web client
> project, we are looking at maintaining feature parity with the old client.
>
> Bill has begun the work and has created a semi-functional wireframe to
> demonstrate the layout of the form. The wireframe brings up one area
> where an element that worked well in the xul client may not work so well
> in the web client.
>
> In the xul client, we have a floating box to the right of the form where
> the Save and Save & Clone buttons are available as well as the options
> to show required, suggested or all fields. The floating box follows you
> along as you scroll up and down the form so that the Save buttons are
> always in easy reach.
>
> The same thing happens in the new Angularized editor, but I'm not sure
> it works as well in the web client. I think it might be a good time to
> consider whether the way we handled this in the old client is the way we
> should handle it in the web client or if there are other ways we might
> be able to provide these options.
>
> I have a screencast showing the current version of the new patron
> editor.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B74gDMUDwDXqM3NjbTZfRjY3RW8/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> At a typical screen resolution, the box with the save options travels
> with you without much trouble, although it does get a little awkward
> when you're scrolling over the separators with the green background. If
> you reduce the screen resolution, we do see a problem where the Save
> area overlaps with the input boxes. I don't know how much of a problem
> this will be since it seems to work fine at resolutions used by
> desktops, laptops, and tablets. However, it could be problematic at
> resolutions used on phones.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Although I strongly believe the Save and the Save & Clone buttons
> should be in easy reach of the user at any location in the patron
> registration form, I'm not so sure that the options to view required,
> suggested or all fields needs to be there. What do you all think? Are
> those options that you are likely to click when you are at different
> places in the form? Or is it something you set as soon as you load the
> form? If it's the latter, I think the top of the patron registration
> form might be a nice location for them.
>
> 2. Is the floating box the best location for the Save and Save & Clone
> buttons or is there some other way we can keep these options in easy
> reach. When we first started working on this project, I looked at the
> mockup Julia Lima worked on for the Evergreen UI Style Guide project as
> a reference.
> http://media.tumblr.com/69beec7802a938b889bdfa80c7e0d54b/tumblr_inline_nkn0okinXl1t572gy.png
>
> She had placed the "Save" button along the top bar, but I could only see
> that working if the top navigation bar in the web client stuck to the
> top of the screen. We could certainly place the Save buttons at both the
> top and bottom of the screens, but the form is long enough that I could
> see cases where you would be in the middle of the form when you hit your
> save point.
>
> Any ideas on how we might be able to offer easy access to these Save
> options in a different way?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Kathy
>
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128
> klussier at masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>

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Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
klussier at masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier