[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Soft Stalling - PINES hold white-paper

[Hardy, Elaine]

Josh,

 

It is actually explained earlier in the document. Proximity is one of two
key misunderstandings (see numbered page 22 (26th page of document)). The
complete sentence on numbered page 23 (27th page) is: 

 

Due to a miscommunication between staff at Equinox Software and GPLS,
proximity was defined as geographic rather than organizational.

 

Proximity was never geographic but was misunderstood to be so. It has
always been organizational. This misapprehension was one of the issues
that led to the belief amongst PINES libraries that holds didn't work. 

 

I often use the term current when referring to Evergreen functionality
since it can change in the future as well as differing from past
functionality.

 

Elaine

 

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

 

404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
ehardy at georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

 

From: Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Josh Stompro
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:01 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Soft Stalling - PINES hold white-paper

 

Hello Elaine, I've been reading through this report, and I'm curious about
one section, hopefully this isn't explained a little further down.

 

http://pines.georgialibraries.org/sites/default/files/files/Holds%20White%
20Paper.pdf

On page 27, this statement is made "proximity was defined as geographic
rather than organizational (see Figure 8)."

 

Then on page 28 there is a bullet point that says

"Current proximity is organizational not geographic."

 

So was the proximity defined as geographic, then switched to
organizational, which then caused issues because people were used to the
geographic method?  Is that what that is saying?  Or is it saying that the
perception was that proximity was based on geographic distance vs what it
actually was (organizational distance).

 

Thanks

 

Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director

 

From: Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Hardy, Elaine
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:17 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Soft Stalling

 

We did some pretty extensive research on holds in 2013. While it is PINES
policy centric, it might answer other questions you may have. It is
available at  http://pines.georgialibraries.org/holds-white-paper 

 

Elaine

 

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

 

404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
ehardy at georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

 

From: Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Joan Kranich
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 2:03 PM
To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
<open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Soft Stalling

 

Hi Elaine,

 

Thank you for the response.  I did not realize that stalling does not take
into consideration whether or not the pickup library owns a copy or not.
I appreciate the answers to my question.

 

Joan

 

Joan Kranich

C/W MARS Member Services

jkranich at cwmars.org

508-755-3323 ext. 21

 

From: Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Hardy, Elaine
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:38 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Soft Stalling

 

Unless things have changed in the last versions, stalling is only for
opportunistic capture. Stalling does not apply to the holds targeter.
During the stall, the targeter process can identify a copy outside the
pickup library and it can be captured by the owning library and transited
for the hold. Also, stalling does not take into consideration whether or
not the pickup library owns a copy or not. Opportunistic capture is
stalled regardless. 

 

 

Elaine

 

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

 

404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
ehardy at georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

 

From: Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of
Joan Kranich
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:16 PM
To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Soft Stalling

 

Hi,

 

I have a question about the Library Setting Soft Stalling.

 

If we retarget Holds every 24 hours and set the soft stalling for 2 days
will the Hold that has targeted the pickup location's copy target another
available/eligible copy in 24 hours or will the Hold continue to target
the pickup location's copy until after the 2 days stalling period?

 

I have found the soft stalling is more effective if set system wide than
if it set for an individual library.

 

Thanks for any information you can share.

 

Joan

 

Joan Kranich

C/W MARS Member Services

jkranich at cwmars.org

508-755-3323 ext. 21

 

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