[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time?

Tue May 10 10:47:46 EDT 2016

Yamil has converted a number of folks to IRC over time (IMO).

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Remington Steed <rjs7 at calvin.edu> wrote:

> Scott,
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> Thanks for your willingness to try IRC again.  Yamil’s practice sessions
> are very good and will hopefully get you past any barriers.
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> Regarding Documentation Interest Group (DIG) meetings, you can find full
> meeting logs, as well as the rough minutes, at this link:
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> http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meetings
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> And you are welcome to join the Docs list (
> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-documentation)
> to join the conversation.  That is where we will probably discuss the date
> for the June meeting.
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> Remington
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> --
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> Remington Steed
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> Electronic Resources Specialist
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> Hekman Library, Calvin College
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> http://library.calvin.edu/
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> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *
> scott.thomas at sparkpa.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:25 AM
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> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice
> time?
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> Thank you, everyone, for your responses. Regarding the cost of another
> solution, I am sure, if all of the larger consortia contributed, we could
> come up with something. Having said that, the other reasons everyone gave
> for using IRC are indeed compelling. Who hasn’t been burned by a Java
> download when trying to access an on-line meeting? I can’t say I am
> thrilled. I’d be happy if I never had to see another command prompt in any
> context and was disappointed that I missed the recent documentation meeting
> because I could not get IRC to work, but I will avail myself of any
> practice sessions, and I may yet learn to love IRC. This is all new to me.
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> Thank you again.
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> Scott
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> *From:* Open-ils-general [
> mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
> <open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Holly
> Brennan
> *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 2:06 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice
> time?
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> I’ll chime in, too, as a relative newcomer -
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> IRC was completely new to me three years ago, but I found it easy to learn
> the more “advanced” ins-and-outs (because there’s really nothing to learn
> when all you want to do is ask a question) . I like being able to hop on
> using any browser or program I want, with nothing to install, anytime I’ve
> needed to.
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> Sadly, I cannot say the same for any of the fancier meeting platforms.
> Most webinars I’ve used on these platforms require 15 minutes at the
> beginning of the session to explain how to chat/alert/etc, and there is
> usually someone who can’t connect to one or more parts. I have found myself
> in those situations, and I consider myself quite tech-savvy.
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> I love the simplicity (and yes, antiquity) of the IRC interface! (And
> there are many other benefits, as already stated)
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> -Holly
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> Holly Brennan
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> Technology Specialist
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> Homer Public Library
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> hbrennan at cityofhomer-ak.gov
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> 907-435-3154 (direct)
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> 907-235-3180 (main desk)
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> *From:* Open-ils-general [
> mailto:open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org
> <open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Sharp
> *Sent:* Monday, May 9, 2016 9:46 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice
> time?
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> A couple of pro-IRC points to consider as well:
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> - conversations are publicly logged and web-searchable
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> - despite the apparent intimidation factor for new users (mitigated by
> sessions like Yamil so generously offers), it's a low point of entry
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> - can accommodate hundreds (or thousands) of users who can participate in
> real time, making meetings truly public (the most I've seen
> teleconferencing software accommodate is maybe 15, increasing costs for
> whoever is hosting the meeting)
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> I'm open to individual committees or the Evergreen Oversight Board
> occasionally using conference software for a more face-to-face feel, but I
> hope we will continue using IRC for most community business for the above
> reasons (and the ones Ben mentioned).
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> Just my two cents,
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> Chris
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> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Ben Shum <ben at evergreener.net> wrote:
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> It's a reasonable question and one we should continue to evaluate over
> time.
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> One reason we did not always like products like gotomeeting, etc. was
> cost. While community volunteers could grant access to their organizations
> resources, the community itself never decided to spend money on platforms.
> Freenode IRC is free to use.
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> Another reason is cross platform compatibility; some of us used Linux
> workstations and these did not always play nicely with those applications.
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> After this many years on IRC, it's second nature to me, but I also see the
> value considering alternative solutions if we can work through all the
> logistics and continue to keep barriers of access to a minimum.
>
> -- Ben
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> Sent from my Nexus 6
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> On May 9, 2016 12:01 PM, "scott.thomas at sparkpa.org" <
> scott.thomas at sparkpa.org> wrote:
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> I’d like to ask a general question about this since I am still fairly new
> to the community. Why has the Evergreen community opted to use IRC chat as
> an on-line meeting venue? The one time I used it I found it disconcerting
> in its antiquated look and feel and had difficulty with the etiquette. Why
> not use GoToMeeting, Blackboard Collaborate, or a similar product? The chat
> interface in these products is much closer to what most of us are used to
> and it would add in the possibility of using VOIP and screen sharing. I’ve
> been curious about this for a while....
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> Scott
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> Scott Thomas
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> Executive Director
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> *PaILS / SPARK*
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> (717) 873-9461
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> scott.thomas at sparkpa.org
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> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Barbara
> Cormack
> *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 12:46 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general at list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice
> time?
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> I second what Stuart said; I'd be interested.  Thanks! -- Barbara
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> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Forrest, Stuart <sforrest at bcgov.net>
> wrote:
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> Yes please I missed the last one
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> Stuart
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> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Yamil
> Suarez
> *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 11:59 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice
> time?
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> Hello,
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> Last week the IRC practice time went well, and we had a good bunch of
> folks trying out IRC. I wanted to check in if there was interest for a
> second practice time. I am all for it, but I wanted to verify that there
> was community interest. Remember to include your colleagues that are not on
> this list that may want to learn.
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> I tend to pick times after 12 noon EST to allow those on the west coast to
> join, but I am willing to schedule something in the (east coast) morning
> too.
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> Thanks in advance,
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> Yamil
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> --
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> Barbara Cormack
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> Project Manager
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> *Equinox Software - Open Your Library*
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> Chris Sharp
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