[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Acquisitions Interest Group meeting minutes & request for dedicated Acquisitions Listserv

Kathy Lussier klussier at masslnc.org
Thu Apr 27 11:19:16 EDT 2017


Ideally, a process would come before a new list, but given that this is 
the third time in my memory that there has been discussion of an 
acquisitions list, I have no objections.

Kathy


On 04/27/2017 10:58 AM, Leslie St. John wrote:
> This is not the first time the group has discussed or requested a 
> separate mailing list.This keeps coming up because when the group 
> meets there is indication that if we had the list more users would 
> become more vocal, which is really something we need to facilitate.   
> I've noticed that most of the no's are coming from people who aren't 
> acquisitions users.  Why can't we at least try it out? If we need 
> guidelines to surround this process, fine, but let's make them so they 
> allow the possibility.
> Thanks for listening,
> my 2 cents,
> Leslie
>
> Leslie St. John
> /PINES Services Specialist/
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345-4304
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> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org 
> <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     I'm just catching up to this email thread now. I also saw that
>     there was a similar request for a circulation list that was
>     briefly discussed in IRC last week.
>
>     There seems to be two schools of thought in the community about
>     mailing lists. There are a lot of people who would like to see
>     most of the discussions happening on just one or two lists so that
>     nobody is missing out on information that may be important to
>     them. The volume of discussion in the community is certainly small
>     enough to support the idea of using just one or two lists for all
>     of our communication.
>
>     We also have people who prefer to communicate on topical lists
>     that pertain to their area of focus.
>
>     I'm one of those people who would prefer that all Evergreen
>     discussions happen on the general list, but I'm also a person who
>     feels comfortable posting to the general list. When the catalogers
>     list was created a few years ago, I noticed a couple of people
>     posting to the list who I had previously rarely seen posting on
>     the general list. I think that's one value to creating these
>     topical lists. No matter how much we tell people they should feel
>     comfortable posting on any Evergreen-related topic to the general
>     list, there will always be people who feel a little intimidated
>     about posting to a list the goes out to the entire Evergreen
>     community. If a new list gets more people comfortable with
>     participating in the community, I consider it a win.
>
>     Although I also sometimes hear concerns that talking too much on a
>     given topic might clog up another list, I've ever heard anyone
>     complain about this issue. It would be good to know if there are
>     people who do indeed think there is too much traffic coming from
>     their Evergreen list discussions, but I personally find the volume
>     very low.
>
>     Another factor to consider is that topical lists might give people
>     a feeling that there is a place for them in the community. Since
>     we have already created lists for reports and cataloging, I can
>     see why community members might hope there is a similar
>     communication platform for other topical areas.
>
>     What we seem to be lacking is any kind of process for requesting
>     new lists or guidelines about when a new list is warranted. With
>     no process, my concern is that this request and the circ request
>     will just die with no definitive answer. A clear 'no' answer with
>     reasons why the list will not be created is better than no answer
>     at all.
>
>     I've looked around and found a couple of other communities that
>     have some kind of language around new lists.
>
>     Debian - https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list
>     <https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list> (very vague)
>     One Laptop Per Child -
>     http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mailing_lists#Starting_a_new_list
>     <http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mailing_lists#Starting_a_new_list>
>
>     If you all think this is a good idea, I would be willing to work
>     on coming up with some guidelines. Also, let me know if you are
>     interested in helping out.
>
>     Kathy
>
>
>
>
>     On 04/21/2017 09:37 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
>>     My concern would be that we have already seen other lists (such
>>     as the Sysadmin one) suffer from splintering as Jason pointed
>>     out.  People may not sign up for a new list serv and less eyes on
>>     communication ends up being a detriment.
>>
>>     The cataloging list for example I don't think is suffering from
>>     such a volume of messages that adding to it will create too many
>>     noise points or disrupt it's existing communication.  So far in
>>     the whole of 2017 to date (109 days) we have had 23 messages on
>>     the cataloging list, so a frequency of just over one every five
>>     days.  I think there's plenty of room in there for focus to
>>     happen :)
>>
>>     And I will also echo Jason's point about development input should
>>     happen on the development list where possible.  The dev list is
>>     not a secret club for coders but for development.  Sometimes the
>>     lines blur and discussion of features, bugs, etc... happens
>>     across lists (which is healthy) but when things are clearly about
>>     specific development I don't see how splintering the
>>     communication away from the people who file bugs, test bugs,
>>     write patches, etc... benefits it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Rogan Hamby
>>
>>     Data and Project Analyst
>>
>>     Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>
>>     phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>>
>>     email: rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>     <mailto:rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org>
>>
>>     web: http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>>
>>     On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Tiffany Little
>>     <tlittle at georgialibraries.org
>>     <mailto:tlittle at georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         My vote would be "yes" for having a specific listserv for
>>         Acquisitions. It would let the discussions be more
>>         Acq-specific instead of clogging up the Catalogers' list with
>>         stuff they might not care about, and could be a more focused
>>         discussion since it wouldn't be mixed in with other areas of
>>         interest.
>>
>>         Tiffany
>>
>>         --
>>         Tiffany Little
>>         /PINES Services Specialist, Acquisitions/
>>         Georgia Public Library Service
>>         1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>>         Atlanta, Georgia 30345
>>         (404) 235-7160 <tel:%28404%29%20235-7160>
>>         tlittle at georgialibraries.org
>>         <mailto:tlittle at georgialibraries.org>
>>
>>         On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Jason Stephenson
>>         <jason at sigio.com <mailto:jason at sigio.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             I'd argue for "No" on the creation of an acquisitions
>>             list. Mainly for
>>             the same reasons that the administrators' list was shut
>>             down and that I
>>             disagree with the creation of a circulation list.
>>
>>             I think the discussion of Angularization of acquisitions
>>             interfaces
>>             belongs on the development list and not on the
>>             catalogers, general, or a
>>             new list. If you want to discuss how the interface looks
>>             and works,
>>             you're a developer whether or not you write code, like it
>>             or not.
>>
>>             Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary, etc.
>>
>>             On 04/21/2017 08:27 AM, Elaine Hardy wrote:
>>             > Christine,
>>             >
>>             > Works for me....
>>             >
>>             > Elaine
>>             >
>>             >
>>             >
>>             > J. Elaine Hardy
>>             > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
>>             > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
>>             > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
>>             > Atlanta, GA 30045
>>             >
>>             > 404.235.7128 <tel:404.235.7128> Office
>>             > 404.548.4241 <tel:404.548.4241> Cell
>>             > 404.235.7201 <tel:404.235.7201> FAX
>>             >
>>             > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Christine Burns
>>             > <christine.burns at bc.libraries.coop
>>             <mailto:christine.burns at bc.libraries.coop>
>>             > <mailto:christine.burns at bc.lib
>>             <mailto:christine.burns at bc.lib>raries.coop
>>             <http://raries.coop>>> wrote:
>>             >
>>             >     Hello
>>             >
>>             >     The Acquisitions Interest Group is requesting an
>>             Acquisitions
>>             >     specific listserv. Currently Acquisitions falls
>>             under the
>>             >     Cataloguers list with the rest of technicial
>>             services. During the
>>             >     Acquisitions Interest Group meeting at the
>>             Evergreen Conference this
>>             >     month the group discussed the need for an
>>             Acquisitions specific
>>             >     listserv to facilitate AIG activity. We are
>>             anticipating an
>>             >     increased amount of Acquisitions specific
>>             discussions during the
>>             >     Angularization of the Acquisitions module in the
>>             web client.
>>             >
>>             >     This topic is open for discussion please voice your
>>             opinion by
>>             >     *Friday May 5th*.
>>             >
>>             >     A copy of the meeting minutes can be found on the
>>             Acquisitions
>>             >     Interest Group wiki page here -
>>             >
>>             https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group
>>             <https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group>
>>             >   
>>              <https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group
>>             <https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group>>
>>             >
>>             >     Thank you
>>             >     Christine
>>             >
>>             >
>>             >     --
>>             >     Christine Burns
>>             >     Co-op Support
>>             >     BC Libraries Cooperative
>>             >     Ph: 1-888-848-9250 <tel:1-888-848-9250>
>>             <tel:(888)%20848-9250>
>>             > https://bc.libraries.coop
>>             > https://status.libraries.coop/
>>             <https://status.libraries.coop/>
>>             >
>>             >
>>
>>
>>
>
>     -- 
>     Kathy Lussier
>     Project Coordinator
>     Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>     (508) 343-0128 <tel:%28508%29%20343-0128>
>     klussier at masslnc.org <mailto:klussier at masslnc.org>
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>
-- 
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
klussier at masslnc.org
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