[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

Fri Aug 11 16:08:19 EDT 2017

I'm late to the thread, but wanted to chime in that we at KCLS make heavy
use of the self checkout interface.   It's heavily modified, primarily for
look and feel, but we are also testing a locally coded version of bug
#1512171 (My OPAC-style renewals).  Unfortunately the code is not easily
shared, since it's built atop years of customization, but we hope to
eventually rebase to the community code, so having it be part of stock EG
is something I'm interested in.

Also, when the time comes for major overhaul, I started a proof-of-concept
branch to port self checkout to Angular.  It's bare bones, but mostly
works, minus a lot of edge case handling.

http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/berick/angular-selfcheck-exp-wip

I'll open a bug for this...

-b

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Terran McCanna <
tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Yes, me too. I tweaked a few little things on ours with the layout, but
> nothing major.
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138 <(404)%20235-7138>
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Yamil Suarez <ysuarez at berklee.edu> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> I would like to also see customizations you made made to Self-Check code,
>> so I can get ideas. I had been meaning to ask you when I saw this thread.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Yamil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------
>>
>> Yamil Suarez, MCS
>> Associate Director of Library Systems & Web Development
>>
>> Stan Getz Library
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 1140 Boylston St
>> Boston, MA 02215
>>
>> ysuarez at berklee.edu
>> 617-747-2617 <(617)%20747-2617>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Josh Stompro <stomproj at exchange.larl.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Joe, I have a fix for keeping the cursor focus always on the scan box.
>>> We also use touch screens for our self checks and we were having trouble
>>> with the fact that it was easy to move the focus, which would cause the
>>> next scan to silently fail, and sometimes switch screens.
>>>
>>> I have a bug report on it, but haven’t actually posted the code there
>>> yet.  I’ll try and do that soon.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have also had trouble with the print list button that exists on the
>>> checkout screen.  Some significant portion of users would press that when
>>> they were done, get a printout and then walk away.  I guess they thought
>>> that was the logout and print a receipt button.  Then the next users would
>>> walk up and sometime check out items on the first person’s account.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would love to collaborate with you on making the self check more touch
>>> screen friendly.  I can share the css changes I’ve made just to enlarge
>>> everything to make it easier to see and to make the buttons easier to press.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>>> es at list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe Knueven
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM
>>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking
>>> media cases
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in
>>> self-checkout, does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are
>>> pleased with and would be willing to share?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button
>>> like (ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an
>>> especially long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a
>>> basic amount of tt2 scripting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a good day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joseph Knueven, Director
>>>
>>> Germantown Public Library
>>>
>>> 51 North Plum Street
>>>
>>> Germantown, OH 45327
>>>
>>> 937-855-4001 <(937)%20855-4001>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>>> es at list.georgialibraries.org
>>> <open-ils-general-bounces at list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Terran
>>> McCanna
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
>>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general at list.georgia
>>> libraries.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking
>>> media cases
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
>>> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
>>> available.<<
>>>
>>> Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that
>>> they can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have
>>> books in hand when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that
>>> they could go to the Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes.
>>> Online instructions would help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as
>>> the method of renewal in My Account.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terran McCanna
>>> PINES Program Manager
>>> Georgia Public Library Service
>>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>>> 404-235-7138 <(404)%20235-7138>
>>> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander <mrylander at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Terran,
>>>
>>> Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
>>> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
>>> available.
>>>
>>> Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
>>> the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Rylander
>>>  | President
>>>  | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>>  | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>>>  | email:  miker at equinoxinitiative.org
>>>  | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
>>> <tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>> > Hi Jesse,
>>> >
>>> > I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working
>>> on
>>> > developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't
>>> gotten a
>>> > lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
>>> > libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
>>> > libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
>>> > could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt
>>> it,
>>> > like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality
>>> that the
>>> > OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Terran McCanna
>>> > PINES Program Manager
>>> > Georgia Public Library Service
>>> > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>>> > Atlanta, GA 30345
>>> > 404-235-7138
>>> > tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty <
>>> jessem at burlingtonwa.gov>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello Everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes
>>> magnetic
>>> >> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
>>> >> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if
>>> there is
>>> >> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
>>> >> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
>>> >> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing
>>> more than
>>> >> its current basic form?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks in advance,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jesse McCarty
>>> >>
>>> >> City of Burlington
>>> >>
>>> >> IT Technical Assistant
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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