[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

Daniel Wells dbwells at gmail.com
Tue Aug 7 18:52:11 EDT 2018


Janet, I can speak to those textual changes, as I am probably responsible
for both.  They were attempts to improve accuracy and consistency within
the great ball of changes touched by the omnibus branch.  Whether these
attempts succeeded is of course debatable :)

To explain a little further, first, within the holdings view we used to
have two separate options, one to mark a library for call number ("volume")
transfer, another to mark a call number for copy/item transfer.  These
options were folded into a single marking action for ease-of-use, and I
picked the name "holding transfer" as an attempt at a generic enough term
to mean either transferring an individual copy or a whole call number's
worth of copies (depending on the context of the action).  Because the
record-level transfer option uses the same code to do the same thing (just
with a default library chosen), "Mark for Holdings Transfer" was an attempt
to convey that these were two paths to the same underlying behavior.  It
also helped prevent term mismatch for other messages related to these
behaviors (think confirmation boxes).

As for the "Add Volumes" vs "Add Copies", the problem there was that the
omnibus branch created an "Add Volume" menu entry within the holdings view
which did exactly that, add an empty "volume" (call number) with no copy.
It felt like bad design to have this menu entry for "Add Volume" which only
added the call number while also having an "Add Volumes" button which added
both the call number and the copy.  An early revision, for maximum clarity,
relabeled the record-level button to "Add Volumes and Copies", but a long
button label such as that brings its own challenges.  It was then reasoned
that "Add Copies" in some sense implicitly means (at the record level) "Add
(Volumes and) Copies", since you can't have the second without the first.
And thus the current label was born.

Overall, I think it is a very good idea to keep questioning these labels as
we work toward consistency.  As we do so, we should also keep in mind how
these labels overlap and interact.  Otherwise, we might paint ourselves
into a corner if by deciding to replace every X with Y, when some of the X
was really Xa or Xb.  In particular, and to echo what Lynn brings up, I
think all of the following terms need to be carefully reconsidered as to
how they relate, and how we should use them for maximum clarity and
expressiveness:

Copy
Item
Holding
Volume
Part
Call Number

All of these terms are common and useful in libraries, but I personally
think there is at least one where Evergreen strays pretty far from the
common and useful meaning of the term.  And with that, I leave you all in
suspense until tomorrow!

Sincerely,
Dan

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Lynn Floyd <lfloyd at andersonlibrary.org>
wrote:

> I came up with another terminology that should be looked at Call Number
> vs. Volume.  There are lots of places where these terms are used
> interchangeably.
>
>
>
> Lynn Floyd
>
> Lfloyd at andersonlibrary.org
>
> Anderson County Library
>
> Anderson, SC
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>
> *From:* Open-ils-general <open-ils-general-bounces@
> list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Diane Disbro
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2018 2:51 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general at list.
> georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in
> the web client
>
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>
> I appreciate this, Kathy!
>
>
>
> Some inconsistencies in the XUL client have already been removed in the
> web client - standalone interface/offline circulation; show holds/view
> holds on bib. Simplify, simplify, simplify. I look forward to seeing the
> survey.
>
>
> Diane Disbro
>
> Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator
>
> Union Branch
>
> Scenic Regional Library
>
> 308 Hawthorne Drive
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=308+Hawthorne+Drive+Union,+MO++63084&entry=gmail&source=g>
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> Union, MO
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>   63084
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> (636) 583-3224
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> ddisbro at scenicregional.org
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>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> A recent discussion on the cataloging list turned my attention back to
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1538691. This bug primarily
> focused on the way we used items and copies to describe the same entity in
> Evergreen. A majority of people providing feedback on the bug indicated a
> preference for items over copies.
>
>
>
> I have created a branch that does so, as well as another branch that does
> the opposite. I have also loaded each branch on a test server to give
> people an idea of how things would look in an all item world or in an all
> copy world.
>
>
>
> https://mlnc2.noblenet.org/eg/staff/  uses 'items.'
>
> https://mlnc3.noblenet.org/eg/staff/ uses 'copies'
>
>
>
> The login for each server is admin / evergreen123.
>
>
>
> I think it would be good to get broader community feedback before deciding
> on a direction.
>
>
>
> While working on the branch, I realized we also need to make a decision
> about the use or shelving location vs. copy location.
>
>
>
> What I would like to do is send out a community survey that asks: 1) do we
> need these terms to be consistent (people may be perfectly happy using
> items and copies interchangeably) and b) which terms are preferred.
>
>
>
> Do you all think this is the best approach for moving forward? Are there
> any other inconsistent terms we should be adding to the survey?
>
>
>
> Let me know what you think. My hope is to issue the survey by Thursday.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> Kathy
>
>
> --
>
> Kathy Lussier
>
> Project Coordinator
>
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
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> (508) 343-0128
>
> klussier at masslnc.org
>
>
>
> Lynn Floyd
> Head of Information Technology
> Anderson County Library
> Anderson, SC
> lfloyd at andersonlibrary.org
>
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