[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] How to exclude the field 041 value from search by language

Wed Sep 19 01:28:02 EDT 2018

Thanks, Andrea,

The reingest really helped ;-)

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2018-09-18 19:14 GMT+02:00 Andrea Buntz Neiman <
abneiman at equinoxinitiative.org>:

> Hi Eva,
>
> You will need to do a reingest of records to see the changes in your
> search -- in general the reingest can be targeted to just the records that
> were affected by the change (but in your case, I imagine a lot of records
> contain an 041).
>
> Hope this helps,
> Andrea
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:36 PM Cerninakova Eva <cernin at jabok.cz> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot both of you ;-)
>>
>> I was thinking the same way Jane, so I have at least put a link to a
>> pre-arranged search for English and German titles using a query with
>> -item_lang (cze) to our catalog homepage. I hope this  can partly help
>> our students to solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> I have also tried to delete the 041 field and its subfield from Record
>> Attribute Definition on our test server today, similarly as it is suggested
>> in the documentation Andrea have sent. However, the search result haven't
>> changed, see http://aron.jabok.cuni.cz/eg/opac/results?bool=and&qtype=
>> keyword&contains=contains&query=item_lang%28eng%29&bool=
>> and&qtype=title&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=author&contains=
>> contains&query=&_adv=1&detail_record_view=0&locg=1&pubdate=
>> is&date1=&date2=&sort=
>> I wonder whether it is necessary to do anything else?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Eva
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
>> cernin at jabok.cz
>> Tel. +420 211 222 409
>>
>> Knihovna Jabok
>> http:/knihovna.jabok.cz
>> Tel.  +420 211 222 410
>> Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
>> Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Salmovsk%C3%A1+8,+120+00+Praha+2&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>>
>> 2018-09-18 18:13 GMT+02:00 Andrea Buntz Neiman <
>> abneiman at equinoxinitiative.org>:
>>
>>> Hi Eva,
>>>
>>> Equinox did the work here & it seems that we missed adding the
>>> documentation to the community docs repository during the run up to 3.1.
>>> Apologies about that!  We'll get that committed shortly.  In the meantime
>>> please see the attached PDF with that documentation.  Configuring the
>>> indexed subfields can be found on page 4.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:02 PM Jane Sandberg <sandbej at linnbenton.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Eva,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the question!  Perhaps you already know this, but you can
>>>> now use Evergreen's boolean operators on the languages.  So, if you
>>>> want to retrieve all your materials that contain English or German (or
>>>> both), but not Czech, you can use this search:
>>>>
>>>> (item_lang(eng) || item_lang(ger)) -item_lang(cze)
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, that syntax is not very friendly for students.
>>>>
>>>> I believe you can turn off indexing of the 041$a (or other subfields)
>>>> in Server Administration > MARC Record Attributes.
>>>>
>>>>  -Jane
>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:13 AM Cerninakova Eva <cernin at jabok.cz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like to ask whether there is a possibility to exclude the
>>>> value of the field 041 when searching by language in the Evergreen catalog
>>>> (and search only by the value specified in the 008 field).
>>>> >
>>>> > Our students often need literature in German or in English for their
>>>> language lessons. In our previous Evergreen versions they used to search
>>>> English or German materials using language filter in the OPAC. Our
>>>> consortium have upgraded to Evergreen 3.1 this summer. Version 3.1 allows
>>>> combining the searched languages by extracting values from both the 008
>>>> control field and the 041 data field. Unfortunately, this excellent new
>>>> ability has unexpected consequences for searching in our catalog. When
>>>> search query is filtered for example by English language of the item, most
>>>> search results are  in Czech nevertheless. The reason is quite simple: most
>>>> scholarly materials contain resume in English or German (or both), and
>>>> information about language of an existing resume is usually specified in
>>>> the field 041 $b of the bib record. This means, the filtering by language
>>>> is useles for our users at the moment ;-( .
>>>> >
>>>> > Example of the search query  filtered by English language of the
>>>> item: https://knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz/eg/opac/results?bool=and&
>>>> qtype=title&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=author&
>>>> contains=contains&query=&_adv=1&detail_record_view=0&fi%
>>>> 3Aitem_lang=eng&locg=102&pubdate=is&date1=&date2=&sort=
>>>> > Example of the search qurey filtered by German language of the item:
>>>> https://knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz/eg/opac/results?bool=and&
>>>> qtype=keyword&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&
>>>> qtype=title&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=author&
>>>> contains=contains&query=&_adv=1&detail_record_view=0&fi%
>>>> 3Aitem_lang=ger&locg=102&pubdate=is&date1=&date2=&sort=
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there some setting available, that would exclude the values
>>>> specified in field 041 from the search result when searching by language of
>>>> the item?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance for any hint.
>>>> > Eva
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ---
>>>> > Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
>>>> > cernin at jabok.cz
>>>> > Tel. +420 211 222 409
>>>> >
>>>> > Knihovna Jabok
>>>> > http:/knihovna.jabok.cz
>>>> > Tel.  +420 211 222 410
>>>> > Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
>>>> > Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Salmovsk%C3%A1+8,+120+00+Praha+2&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jane Sandberg
>>>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>>>> Linn-Benton Community College
>>>> sandbej at linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
>>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrea Buntz Neiman
>>> Project Manager for Software Development
>>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>> abneiman at equinoxinitiative.org
>>> 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) x5583
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>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Andrea Buntz Neiman
> Project Manager for Software Development
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
> abneiman at equinoxinitiative.org
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