How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks, Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/ (https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/) 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein
There is a global flag (Administration > Server Administration > Global Flags) called Holds Retarget Interval that controls this. We have ours set to 72h. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 10:29 AM misty via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks,
*Misty Morse Head of Adult ServicesClinton Public Library* https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/
*765-832-8349313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,478**42*
The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein
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Misty, Evergreen Indiana retargets holds at 24 hours. Courtney Brown Director Evergreen Indiana Library Consortium Indiana State Library 140 N Senate Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46204 cobrown@library.in.gov<mailto:cobrown@library.in.gov> (317) 232-3691 From: misty via Evergreen-general <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 10:29 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> Cc: misty@clintonpl.lib.in.us Subject: [Evergreen-general] Holds EXTERNAL EMAIL: This email was sent from outside your organization. Exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments or taking further action, before validating its authenticity. How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks, Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/<https://protect.checkpoint.com/v2/r01/___https:/clintonpl.lib.in.us/___.YzJ1OnN0YXRlb2ZpbmRpYW5hOmM6bzpmMzZmYTk5OTU4MWIwZGFiYTc2MjY3ZGYxYTkzODhkZTo3OmNlMWM6YTYwNGJkNDdkZmZlOTY5YzdlMDFmNjQ3YmE1ZDg5NTExY2YxNzQwZTg3NjgxOTI2NGRlMGE4MmI3YTMxZmE4YjpoOlQ6Tg> 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein
LARL retargets holds every 24 hours. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:28 AM misty via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks,
*Misty Morse Head of Adult ServicesClinton Public Library* https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/
*765-832-8349313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,478**42*
The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein
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Hi Misty PaILS/SPARK also retargets holds every 24 hours. [cid:bcf3f2be-9172-4e75-af3c-b73354640a11]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Program Manager Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://support.sparkpa.org/> | support@sparkpa.org<mailto:support@sparkpa.org> ________________________________ From: Sharon Douglas via Evergreen-general <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 10:44 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> Cc: Sharon Douglas <douglass@gsuite.larl.org> Subject: [Evergreen-general] Re: Holds LARL retargets holds every 24 hours. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:28 AM misty via Evergreen-general <evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks, Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/ 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Evergreen-general mailing list -- evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> To unsubscribe send an email to evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org> -- [Company logo] Sharon Douglas Automation Coordinator douglass@gsuite.larl.org<mailto:douglass@gsuite.larl.org> | 218-233-3757 ext. 138 Lake Agassiz Regional Library 118 5th Street South Moorhead, MN 56560 www.larl.org<http://www.larl.org> Our mission is to enrich lives and strengthen communities.
Thanks :) Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/ (https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/) 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 10:52 AM, Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general wrote: Hi Misty PaILS/SPARK also retargets holds every 24 hours. Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Program Manager Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.davis@sparkpa.org (mailto:katherine.dannehl@sparkpa.org) support.sparkpa.org (https://support.sparkpa.org/) | support@sparkpa.org (mailto:support@sparkpa.org) ------------------------------------ From: Sharon Douglas via Evergreen-general Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 10:44 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Sharon Douglas Subject: [Evergreen-general] Re: Holds LARL retargets holds every 24 hours. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:28 AM misty via Evergreen-general wrote: How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks, Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/ (https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/) 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Evergreen-general mailing list -- evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org (mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org) To unsubscribe send an email to evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org (mailto:evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org) -- Sharon Douglas Automation Coordinator douglass@gsuite.larl.org (mailto:douglass@gsuite.larl.org) | 218-233-3757 ext. 138 Lake Agassiz Regional Library 118 5th Street South Moorhead, MN 56560 www.larl.org (http://www.larl.org) Our mission is to enrich lives and strengthen communities.
LARL does run the hold retargeter every 24 hours, but we make use of the --retarget-interval="8 days" and --soft-retarget-interval="12 hours" flags. This leaves a hold that is targeted to a viable copy alone unless 8 days have elapsed. We give a site 8 days to have a chance to pull an item or mark it missing. Marking a copy missing triggers a retarget which immediately targets the next best copy. We also target holds in a specific order that always targets items at locations that have more open hours and staff first. So it is very unlikely that the next choice for an available copy would be a better choice, so there is no need to move on to the next copy quickly. We observed some funny race conditions when we did have the system setup to switch targeted copies every 24 hours when we first migrated. We have 9 small sites that are only open two days a week. And had a hold that kept targeting copies at two of those sites every other day, which matched up with each of their closed days, so the hold never would show up on a pull list. Josh On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:46 AM Sharon Douglas via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
LARL retargets holds every 24 hours.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:28 AM misty via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks,
*Misty Morse Head of Adult ServicesClinton Public Library* https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/
*765-832-8349313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,478**42*
The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein
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Thanks! This is helpful information. Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/ (https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/) 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 02:53 PM, Josh Stompro via Evergreen-general wrote: LARL does run the hold retargeter every 24 hours, but we make use of the --retarget-interval="8 days" and --soft-retarget-interval="12 hours" flags. This leaves a hold that is targeted to a viable copy alone unless 8 days have elapsed. We give a site 8 days to have a chance to pull an item or mark it missing. Marking a copy missing triggers a retarget which immediately targets the next best copy. We also target holds in a specific order that always targets items at locations that have more open hours and staff first. So it is very unlikely that the next choice for an available copy would be a better choice, so there is no need to move on to the next copy quickly. We observed some funny race conditions when we did have the system setup to switch targeted copies every 24 hours when we first migrated. We have 9 small sites that are only open two days a week. And had a hold that kept targeting copies at two of those sites every other day, which matched up with each of their closed days, so the hold never would show up on a pull list. Josh On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:46 AM Sharon Douglas via Evergreen-general wrote: LARL retargets holds every 24 hours. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 9:28 AM misty via Evergreen-general wrote: How long does a hold stay with a patrons local library before Evergreen will move on to another library? This is also if our local copy is available but the list has not been checked and pulled. Thanks, Misty Morse Head of Adult Services Clinton Public Library https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/ (https://clintonpl.lib.in.us/) 765-832-8349 313 S. 4th St. Clinton, In.,47842 The only thing that you absolutely have to know, is the location of the library. —Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Evergreen-general mailing list -- evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org (mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org) To unsubscribe send an email to evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org (mailto:evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org) -- Sharon Douglas Automation Coordinator douglass@gsuite.larl.org (mailto:douglass@gsuite.larl.org) | 218-233-3757 ext. 138 Lake Agassiz Regional Library 118 5th Street South Moorhead, MN 56560 www.larl.org (http://www.larl.org) Our mission is to enrich lives and strengthen communities. _______________________________________________ Evergreen-general mailing list -- evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org (mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org) To unsubscribe send an email to evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org (mailto:evergreen-general-leave@list.evergreen-ils.org)
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