[Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: Evergreen participation in Outreachy?

Fri Sep 2 14:13:48 EDT 2016

Hi Kathy and all,

I just went through and read through the thread about participating in this
the last time it came up.  And I have to say it was disheartening.  Has
anything been done around the idea Grace raised - to survey people who have
attempted to get involved in coding for Evergreen to find out what the
impediments were?  I think that would be very fruitful....if you can find
them.

I have a perspective on this topic I'd like to share.  I'm working with a
couple Evergreen consortia right now and in the process I'm talking with
many other consortia on Evergreen (and other ILSs including Koha) and there
is a consistent theme that Evergreen development is too slow and that this
is beginning to make some consortia question whether Evergreen really makes
sense for them.  It isn't uncommon for me hear that people are frustrated
that it is taking so long to deliver the web client and that other
enhancements are being tabled until that is done. And it starts to feel
strikingly similar to what it was like with a commercial ILS where requests
for enhancements were ignored.

I think this is because there so few developers. I know Equinox is focusing
their energies on the web client but that shouldn't mean all other
development comes to a halt.  There should be more human resources involved
so that one company focusing on one big component shouldn't halt progress
on everything else.  I know this same thing happened when KCLS first got
involved and was able to monopolize the the limited developer community to
focus on their priorities. And I have to say that I personally attempted to
bring in more developers to the fold (as part of that KCLS initiative) so
that instead of monopolizing the limited resources, the end result would be
to expand and enrich the pool of developers.  But that turned out to be
VERY hard to do. And the people I got interested in development and who
tried to get involved...all gave up - discouraged and frustrated.

So, I'd like to suggest it should be a very high priority to find a better
way to attract, on-board, and retain people who would like to get involved
in the Evergreen community on the coding level.  I don't think waiting on
delivery of the web client is an adequate strategy.

Lori

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On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Outreachy (formerly Outreach Program for Women) is happening again. The
> administrators are asking if there is any interest in participating from
> the Evergreen community.
>
> I'm also linking to the EOB thread from the last time this question was
> raised - http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/
> 2016-February/001209.html.
>
> FWIW, I stand by the comments I made in that previous thread.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Evergreen participation in Outreachy?
> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:11:16 -0700
> From: Sarah Sharp <saharabeara at gmail.com> <saharabeara at gmail.com>
> To: Kathy Lussier <klussier at masslnc.org> <klussier at masslnc.org>
> CC: outreachy-admins at gnome.org
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> The Outreachy program is looking for organizations to participate in
> round 13.  Do you think Evergreen would be willing to participate again?
> The round will open on September 12, and the sooner Evergreen is listed,
> the more likely you'll get strong applicants.
>
> Sarah Sharp
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Sarah A Sharp <sarah at thesharps.us> <sarah at thesharps.us> wrote:
> > Dear coordinators and mentors,
> >
> > Thank you for being a part of our outreach program! The next round for
> > Outreachy is scheduled to open on September 12, with an application deadline
> > of October 17. Internships will run from December 6 to March 6.
> >
> > If your organization is interested in participating in the next round,
> > please update your landing page, and let us know by September 7 if you will
> > participate. Organization coordinators and mentors, please coordinate on the
> > following:
> >
> >  * Review set up information at
> > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted
> >  * Secure funding for your org to sponsor at least one intern ($6,500)
> >  * Update your org's landing page
> >  * List your project ideas and recruit other mentors
> >  * Let us know at outreachy-admins at gnome.org that your org is participating
> >  * Start spreading the word about your org's internships - no need to wait
> > for September 12
> >
> > We plan on having a twitter chat about Outreachy on Wednesday, September 21,
> > to spotlight the organizations that are participating, and allow orgs to
> > answer any questions people have. Participation in the chat is optional, but
> > if you do want to participate, being able to link to a blog post that
> > describes why you're passionate about your project would help us promote
> > your project.
> >
> > The updated resources for the upcoming round are:
> >
> >  * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2016/DecemberMarch - a page with a
> > timeline and participating organizations listing.
> >
> >  * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs and
> > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs/Proposal - these pages
> > have motivation and information for sponsorship; you can use and customize
> > the text from the Proposal page to approach companies about sponsorship
> > (please do a quick check with Karen, Marina, and myself at
> > outreachy-admins at gnome.org alias first to make sure we coordinate any
> > efforts to approach the same company).
> >
> >  * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/GettingStarted - please review
> > this page when you are updating the landing page for your organization.
> >
> >  * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy#Contracts - please make all people who
> > volunteer as mentors in your organization aware that they will need to sign
> > a contract similar to this to be a mentor in the program. Interns cannot be
> > paid until their mentors sign the contract, so it is important that mentors
> > sign the contract as soon as the application system opens on September 12.
> >
> >  * https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy#Eligibility - last year we expanded the
> > Outreachy program to include underrepresented people of color
> > underrepresented in tech in the U.S.  Outreachy continues to be open
> > internationally to women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people.
> >
> > Please contact Karen, Marina, and myself at outreachy-admins at gnome.org alias
> > if you have any questions. We hope you can join us for this round!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sarah Sharp
> >
>
>
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