[Eg-oversight-board] Evergreen Project By-Laws
Gagnon, Ron
gagnon at noblenet.org
Tue Apr 10 10:19:32 EDT 2018
Actually I prefer #2, but am fine with #1 with bylaws language safeguards
so that the will of the community is mandated.
Ron
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Terran McCanna <
tmccanna at georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> Option #1 for me as well.
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmccanna at georgialibraries.org
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Garry Collum <Garry.Collum at kentonlibrary.
> org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>> I agree. It seems like membership would bring in more overhead than
>> necessary. I opt for #1, as well.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* eg-oversight-board <eg-oversight-board-bounces at li
>> st.evergreen-ils.org> on behalf of scott.thomas at sparkpa.org <
>> scott.thomas at sparkpa.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 9, 2018 1:07:38 PM
>> *To:* Timothy Spindler; Mike Rylander
>> *Cc:* Oversight Board
>> *Subject:* Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Evergreen Project By-Laws
>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I would opt for #1. The goal here is to ensure community participation
>> in board selection. Changing the entire organization to membership seems,
>> to me, overkill in service to what is ultimately a modest, but very
>> important goal.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* eg-oversight-board [mailto:eg-oversight-board-bou
>> nces at list.evergreen-ils.org] *On Behalf Of *Timothy Spindler
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 9, 2018 10:25 AM
>> *To:* Mike Rylander <mrylander at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Oversight Board <eg-oversight-board at list.evergreen-ils.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Evergreen Project By-Laws
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Mike, I think either approach can work. I guess I would like
>> feedback from the board about which they would prefer.
>>
>> 1 - A non-member organization where the board certifies a poll where the
>> broader community selects the board. I am assuming we would possibly
>> define in the bylaws some polling process to prevent a board from ignoring
>> the opinion of the community.
>>
>> 2 - A member organization where membership is defined by current voting
>> registrations practices
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.cwmars.org>
>>
>> Tim Spindler | Executive Director | CW MARS
>>
>> tspindler at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x120
>>
>> http://www.cwmars.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Mike Rylander <mrylander at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Not only is this possible, it's fairly regular. Think of the "official"
>> vote as a certification of the process by which the broader community
>> selects each board cohort.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Rylander
>> | President
>> | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>> | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>> | email: miker at equinoxinitiative.org
>> | web: http://equinoxinitiative.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Ruth Frasur <
>> director at hagerstownlibrary.org> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the election, could it be such that we continue holding the
>> elections as is, and then do an "official" vote whereby the sitting board
>> elects the new members based on the vote of the community?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Timothy Spindler <tspindler at cwmars.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Oy vey, here they all are
>>
>> 1. Do the board members have to be 1 year? We currently have 3 year
>> staggered terms.
>>
>> Yes, we can do staggered 3 year terms. Let me know what the current
>> terms are for each director and I can make the change.
>> 2. Section 3.3 - is it essentially saying that the Board will elect
>> the Board members? We found the language a little confusing.
>>
>> It is correct that the Board elects itself. If the corporation
>> doesn’t have “members”, which Evergreen did not want, then the board elects
>> itself as a nonprofit has no shareholders. It does seem unusual, but the
>> self-perpetuating board is how many nonprofits function. MOBIUS is
>> different as it has members.
>> 3. Section 3.3 has "Directors participating maysimu ltaneously hear
>> each other during the meeting." Does this mean it has to be auditory (eg.
>> Phone, Web Conferencing, or in person) or can we use IRC? Would all votes
>> be invalid in IRC?
>>
>> This is what we discussed in our conference call. For the one,
>> official meeting that the board has each year, everyone has to be “present”
>> and able to hear each other at the same time. This is a statutory
>> requirement in Missouri (and most states). This meeting could be
>> accomplished at the annual convention with anyone unable to attend in
>> person calling in. For that official meeting, it cannot be done via chat
>> room. Other, unofficial meetings can be held via the chat room. However,
>> any “votes” should be memorialized in a separate, written resolution signed
>> by the board of directors.
>> 4. Our current rules of governance has a purpose and responsibility
>> section, can we include something like this in Article I?
>>
>> We can add these provisions into the bylaws. Please send over what
>> Evergreen would like incorporated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.cwmars.org>
>>
>> Tim Spindler | Executive Director | CW MARS
>>
>> tspindler at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x120
>>
>> http://www.cwmars.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Timothy Spindler <tspindler at cwmars.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I hit send too soon
>>
>> 1. Do the board members have to be 1 year? We currently have 3 year
>> staggered terms.
>>
>> Yes, we can do staggered 3 year terms. Let me know what the current
>> terms are for each director and I can make the change.
>> 2. Section 3.3 - is it essentially saying that the Board will elect
>> the Board members? We found the language a little confusing.
>>
>> It is correct that the Board elects itself. If the corporation
>> doesn’t have “members”, which Evergreen did not want, then the board elects
>> itself as a nonprofit has no shareholders. It does seem unusual, but the
>> self-perpetuating board is how many nonprofits function. MOBIUS is
>> different as it has members.
>> 3. Section 3.3 has "Directors participating maysimu ltaneously hear
>> each other during the meeting." Does this mean it has to be auditory (eg.
>> Phone, Web Conferencing, or in person) or can we use IRC? Would all votes
>> be invalid in IRC?
>>
>> This is what we discussed in our conference call. For the one,
>> official meeting that the board has each year, everyone has to be “present”
>> and able to hear each other at the same time. This is a statutory
>> requirement in Missouri (and most states). This meeting could be
>> accomplished at the annual convention with anyone unable to attend in
>> person calling in. For that official meeting, it cannot be done via chat
>> room. Other, unofficial meetings can be held via the chat room. However,
>> any “votes” should be memorialized in a separate, written resolution signed
>> by the board of directors.
>> 4. Our current rules of governance has a purpose and responsibility
>> section, can we include something like this in Article I?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.cwmars.org>
>>
>> Tim Spindler | Executive Director | CW MARS
>>
>> tspindler at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x120
>>
>> http://www.cwmars.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Timothy Spindler <tspindler at cwmars.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I asked Donn the following questions based on the feedback so far. Here
>> are the responses.
>>
>> 1. Do the board members have to be 1 year? We currently have 3 year
>> staggered terms.
>>
>> Yes, we can do staggered 3 year terms. Let me know what the current
>> terms are for each director and I can make the change.
>> 2. Section 3.3 - is it essentially saying that the Board will elect
>> the Board members? We found the language a little confusing.
>> 3. Section 3.3 has "Directors participating maysimu ltaneously hear
>> each other during the meeting." Does this mean it has to be auditory (eg.
>> Phone, Web Conferencing, or in person) or can we use IRC? Would all votes
>> be invalid in IRC?
>> 4. Our current rules of governance has a purpose and responsibility
>> section, can we include something like this in Article I?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.cwmars.org>
>>
>> Tim Spindler | Executive Director | CW MARS
>>
>> tspindler at cwmars.org | 508-755-3323 x120
>>
>> http://www.cwmars.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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