[Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: Re: Fwd: draft agreement to send to MOBIUS

Wed May 23 12:25:09 EDT 2018

Hi Karen,
   You probably saw Donna's reply that she sent along a red-lined copy. I know we've been having issues with mailing lists etc. Did you get that?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen M. Sandler [mailto:karen at sfconservancy.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:18 PM
To: scott.thomas at sparkpa.org
Cc: Mike Rylander <miker at equinoxinitiative.org>; eg-oversight-board at list.evergreen-ils.org; evergreen at sfconservancy.org
Subject: Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: Re: Fwd: draft agreement to send to MOBIUS

Hi Scott,

Ideally Mike would get back to me, as official representative of the EOB. It would be great for MOBIUS to provide a marked up copy with their revisions.

thanks,
karen

On 2018-05-23 11:48 am, scott.thomas at sparkpa.org wrote:
> Hi Karen,
>     Regarding the new approach, who needs to get back to you regarding 
> confirmation? Would you like MOBIUS to provide a marked up copy with 
> the revisions they would like to see?
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen M. Sandler [mailto:karen at sfconservancy.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:52 AM
> To: scott.thomas at sparkpa.org
> Cc: Mike Rylander <miker at equinoxinitiative.org>; 
> eg-oversight-board at list.evergreen-ils.org
> Subject: Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: Re: Fwd: draft agreement to 
> send to MOBIUS
> 
> No problem, Scott. I'm just waiting for confirmation on the approach I 
> set out in my email yesterday.
> 
> Also, I think there was a reference to MOBIUS marking up other 
> sections of the agreement? It might be easier to consider all of the 
> revisions at once, rather than have multiple versions going back and 
> forth.
> 
> Let me know,
> karen
> 
> On 2018-05-23 7:44 am, scott.thomas at sparkpa.org wrote:
>> Hi Karen,
>>      Thank you for replying to my comments. Can you create a new 
>> agreement that contains the changes we discussed in the email threads?
>> Unfortunately, we are working against a deadline. We were granted an 
>> extension by the venue until May 31st. They are not likely to grant 
>> another since we have been delaying for several weeks.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: eg-oversight-board
>> [mailto:eg-oversight-board-bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Rylander
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:18 PM
>> To: karen at sfconservancy.org
>> Cc: eg-oversight-board at list.evergreen-ils.org
>> Subject: Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: Re: Fwd: draft agreement to 
>> send to MOBIUS
>> 
>> Ah, thank you then.  Much appreciated!
>> 
>> This one came through quickly, but I'm not sure if the list admins 
>> moderated it or you're just "there" now.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> --
>> | Mike Rylander
>> | President
>> | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>> | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>> | email:  miker at EquinoxInitiative.org
>> | web:    http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>> 
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 2:09 PM Karen M. Sandler 
>> <karen at sfconservancy.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK! I had kept the address on cc but I think my emails are moderated.
>> 
>>> karen
>> 
>>> On 2018-05-22 2:05 pm, Mike Rylander wrote:
>>> > Hello EOB and Karen
>>> >
>>> > Since there's been some question about the 
>>> > evergreen at sfconservancy.org mailing list (some folks seem not to 
>>> > be receiving the emails, but should
>>> > be) I'm forwarding Karen's recent email to the community-run list 
>>> > as well.
>>> > This is also good
>>> > for archiving purposes, of course.
>>> >
>>> > Karen, would you mind keeping
>>> > eg-oversight-board at list.evergreen-ils.org
>>> > on
>>> > the CC list, at least for the time being, until I have a chance to 
>>> > coordinate with Brett to make sure we're set up as expected?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, all
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > | Mike Rylander
>>> > | President
>>> > | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>>> > | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>>> > | email:  miker at EquinoxInitiative.org
>>> > | web:    http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> > From: Karen M. Sandler <karen at sfconservancy.org>
>>> > Date: Mon, May 21, 2018 at 5:05 PM
>>> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [Eg-oversight-board] Fwd: draft agreement to 
>>> > send to MOBIUS
>>> > To: <evergreen at sfconservancy.org>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> The project has to cover any loss.  It's a risk we take each 
>>> >>> year, unfortunately.  Insurance can offset that, though I don't 
>>> >>> have the details of the plan, if any, that SFC holds currently.
>>> >
>>> >> I think we need to adjust the agreement in order to make this the 
>>> >> case. I'll talk to the EOB about the right way to accomplish this.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hi EOB! All of our conference hosting agreements to date have had 
>>> > the hosting organization take on the liability of the conference, 
>>> > while we being guaranteed a minimum revenue. That aligned 
>>> > everybody's interests nicely. This situation is totally different, 
>>> > since you tell me MOBIUS isn't taking profit. Here, we could do 
>>> > this in a few different ways, but I think keeping it simple will be best.
>>> >
>>> > We could say something like in the event that the Conference Gross 
>>> > Profits are a negative number, Conservancy agrees to reimburse 
>>> > MOBIUS up to $X of Conference specific expenses.
>>> >
>>> > This way, it protects Evergreen from MOBIUS incurring a large 
>>> > amount of unexpected expenses. As they'll be the ones with access 
>>> > to all of the revenue, they'll be in the best position to know how 
>>> > close the conference is to the margin and they'll be negotiating 
>>> > the liability limits in the contracts.  $30,000 seems like a 
>>> > reasonable number in this context but let me know.
>>> >
>>> > karen
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