[Evergreen-catalogers] Call for updated MARC templates

Thu Apr 27 14:00:43 EDT 2017

Whoops, didn't see Rogan's message.  Sorry for the noise!

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Andrea Buntz Neiman <
abneiman at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:

> For the thread, here's the wishlist bug about templates in the database.
> It references an earlier listserv discussion about the issue:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1131238
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Stroup, Meg <MStroup at statelibrary.sc.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Jennifer:  being able to load templates at the database
>> level would be very helpful.  Our systems admins have limited access, and
>> there's a point at which we can go no further with the MARC templates
>> without requesting assistance.
>>
>> Thank you for opening up the discussion about what custom templates are
>> currently in use.  We're just beginning to create custom templates, so
>> hearing what others find useful is extremely helpful.
>>
>> We created two highly abbreviated ILL templates for use at the State
>> Library location:  they're extremely location-specific, but having them
>> really speeds processing time.  It would be wonderful if there were some
>> way that we could load rough-and-ready templates like those as the need
>> arises.
>>
>> Meg Stroup
>> SCLENDS Cataloging Coordinator
>> 1500 Senate Street
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> (803) 737-7736 | mstroup at statelibrary.sc.gov
>>
>> Innovation | Collaboration | Participation
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-b
>> ounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Weston
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:02 AM
>> To: Evergreen Community Catalogers <evergreen-catalogers at list.eve
>> rgreen-ils.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] Call for updated MARC templates
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification, Rogan.  Yes, I agree that having the
>> ability to load templates at the database level that can be imported and
>> exported from the staff client without the intervention of systems
>> administrators would be lovely.  As a consortium, we would want to be able
>> to limit permission to do this (to maintain consistency) but giving our
>> Cataloging Task Force this ability would be quite beneficial.
>>
>> Back to Galen’s original question about improving the stock installation
>> – here are the templates we currently have in NC Cardinal:
>> Audio_Fiction
>> Audio_Nonfiction
>> Blu_Ray
>> Book_Fiction
>> Book_LPFiction
>> Book_LPNonfiction
>> Book_Nonfiction
>> Computer_file
>> DVD
>> Games
>> Kits
>> Maps
>> Music_Audio
>> VHS_tape
>>
>> I don’t have access to the server but I can share what we see as
>> catalogers.  Our templates have not been updated since 2014 (I believe) but
>> they all have the basic RDA elements.  I don’t think we would advocate for
>> two separate sets of templates (RDA and AACR2).  Having RDA in place now
>> will help with future needs and possibilities.  Having templates for each
>> common video (and audio) format is ideal for catalogers.
>>
>> I would like to see templates added for: 1) multiple format items such as
>> Great Courses with DVD+Book and 2) Serials.
>>
>> Thanks for starting the conversation, Galen!
>>
>> Jennifer Weston
>> Davidson County Public Library
>> Technical Services Manager
>> jennifer.weston at davidsoncountync.gov
>> Phone: (336) 242-2941
>>
>>
>> From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-b
>> ounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:45 AM
>> To: Evergreen Community Catalogers <evergreen-catalogers at list.eve
>> rgreen-ils.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] Call for updated MARC templates
>>
>> Read that first sentence, second paragraph as "is templates" not "isn't
>> templates."  I need a lot more coffee.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rogan Hamby
>> Data and Project Analyst
>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>> email:  mailto:rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
>> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Rogan Hamby <mailto:
>> rhamby at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>> A small clarification is probably necessary here as it has some
>> implications.  Usually the term "hard coded" means when something is bound
>> into the source code of an application it self and Evergreen's templates
>> are not.  The exist as external xml files that are loaded in a templates
>> marc folder and Evergreen reads them from.  So, they can in fact be shared
>> on WIKIs and between users.  What Galen is trying to do is not impossible
>> for anyone currently, in fact any Evergreen server sysadmin should be able
>> to do it.   But, he is improving the stock installation.
>>
>> With that said, what you're really asking about isn't templates loaded at
>> the database level that can be imported and exported from the staff client
>> without the intervention of systems administrators.  I believe there is a
>> bug open for that already and don't think anyone would argue that wouldn't
>> be welcome.  The db part should be pretty simple.  The staff client part I
>> don't know.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rogan Hamby
>> Data and Project Analyst
>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>> email:  mailto:rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
>> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Donald Butterworth <mailto:
>> don.butterworth at asburyseminary.edu> wrote:
>> Galen and All,
>> It really is too bad that the MARC templates have to be hard coded. It
>> would be SO much better if us catalogers could just create whatever we want
>> and save it. For example, we have developed a monster RDA Archive MARC
>> Record template which we are glad to share. (It is only our archival
>> records that are not first created in WorldCat) It contains every
>> imaginable field and subfield that relates to archival collections. But it
>> is also filled with text, to act as prompts for the people who create the
>> records; text that must be deleted or overwritten before the record becomes
>> public.
>> It certainly wouldn't be appropriate to use as an out-of-the-box
>> template. But having that text there, and changeable, is a very handy thing.
>> So what's your pleasure? You want a copy of the monster?
>> Don
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Galen Charlton <mailto:
>> gmc at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The MARC templates that ship with Evergreen were last updated in 2007 and
>> thus far predate RDA. I would like to see if we can ship more, and newer
>> templates in Evergreen 3.0, and to that end would like to ask for your help.
>>
>> In particular, I'd like to know what folks doing original cataloging in
>> Evergreen would want as a decent, but not necessarily overwhelming, set of
>> templates.  Do we want a template for each common video format?
>> Do we want AACR2 and RDA versions of the common templates? What else
>> should I be asking for?
>>
>> I would also like to ask folks to share what custom templates they're
>> using now.  If you have access to your Evergreen server, they are typically
>> found in the /openils/var/templates/marc/ directory; templates can also be
>> shared as MARCXML or MARC records.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Galen
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>> Asbury Theological Seminary
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