[Evergreen-catalogers] Call for updated MARC templates

Thu Apr 27 13:59:25 EDT 2017

For the thread, here's the wishlist bug about templates in the database.
It references an earlier listserv discussion about the issue:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1131238

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Stroup, Meg <MStroup at statelibrary.sc.gov>
wrote:

> I agree with Jennifer:  being able to load templates at the database level
> would be very helpful.  Our systems admins have limited access, and there's
> a point at which we can go no further with the MARC templates without
> requesting assistance.
>
> Thank you for opening up the discussion about what custom templates are
> currently in use.  We're just beginning to create custom templates, so
> hearing what others find useful is extremely helpful.
>
> We created two highly abbreviated ILL templates for use at the State
> Library location:  they're extremely location-specific, but having them
> really speeds processing time.  It would be wonderful if there were some
> way that we could load rough-and-ready templates like those as the need
> arises.
>
> Meg Stroup
> SCLENDS Cataloging Coordinator
> 1500 Senate Street
> Columbia, SC 29201
> (803) 737-7736 | mstroup at statelibrary.sc.gov
>
> Innovation | Collaboration | Participation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-
> bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Weston
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:02 AM
> To: Evergreen Community Catalogers <evergreen-catalogers at list.
> evergreen-ils.org>
> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] Call for updated MARC templates
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Rogan.  Yes, I agree that having the ability
> to load templates at the database level that can be imported and exported
> from the staff client without the intervention of systems administrators
> would be lovely.  As a consortium, we would want to be able to limit
> permission to do this (to maintain consistency) but giving our Cataloging
> Task Force this ability would be quite beneficial.
>
> Back to Galen’s original question about improving the stock installation –
> here are the templates we currently have in NC Cardinal:
> Audio_Fiction
> Audio_Nonfiction
> Blu_Ray
> Book_Fiction
> Book_LPFiction
> Book_LPNonfiction
> Book_Nonfiction
> Computer_file
> DVD
> Games
> Kits
> Maps
> Music_Audio
> VHS_tape
>
> I don’t have access to the server but I can share what we see as
> catalogers.  Our templates have not been updated since 2014 (I believe) but
> they all have the basic RDA elements.  I don’t think we would advocate for
> two separate sets of templates (RDA and AACR2).  Having RDA in place now
> will help with future needs and possibilities.  Having templates for each
> common video (and audio) format is ideal for catalogers.
>
> I would like to see templates added for: 1) multiple format items such as
> Great Courses with DVD+Book and 2) Serials.
>
> Thanks for starting the conversation, Galen!
>
> Jennifer Weston
> Davidson County Public Library
> Technical Services Manager
> jennifer.weston at davidsoncountync.gov
> Phone: (336) 242-2941
>
>
> From: Evergreen-catalogers [mailto:evergreen-catalogers-
> bounces at list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:45 AM
> To: Evergreen Community Catalogers <evergreen-catalogers at list.
> evergreen-ils.org>
> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-catalogers] Call for updated MARC templates
>
> Read that first sentence, second paragraph as "is templates" not "isn't
> templates."  I need a lot more coffee.
>
>
>
> Rogan Hamby
> Data and Project Analyst
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> email:  mailto:rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Rogan Hamby <mailto:rhamby@
> equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
> A small clarification is probably necessary here as it has some
> implications.  Usually the term "hard coded" means when something is bound
> into the source code of an application it self and Evergreen's templates
> are not.  The exist as external xml files that are loaded in a templates
> marc folder and Evergreen reads them from.  So, they can in fact be shared
> on WIKIs and between users.  What Galen is trying to do is not impossible
> for anyone currently, in fact any Evergreen server sysadmin should be able
> to do it.   But, he is improving the stock installation.
>
> With that said, what you're really asking about isn't templates loaded at
> the database level that can be imported and exported from the staff client
> without the intervention of systems administrators.  I believe there is a
> bug open for that already and don't think anyone would argue that wouldn't
> be welcome.  The db part should be pretty simple.  The staff client part I
> don't know.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rogan Hamby
> Data and Project Analyst
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> email:  mailto:rogan at EquinoxInitiative.org
> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Donald Butterworth <mailto:
> don.butterworth at asburyseminary.edu> wrote:
> Galen and All,
> It really is too bad that the MARC templates have to be hard coded. It
> would be SO much better if us catalogers could just create whatever we want
> and save it. For example, we have developed a monster RDA Archive MARC
> Record template which we are glad to share. (It is only our archival
> records that are not first created in WorldCat) It contains every
> imaginable field and subfield that relates to archival collections. But it
> is also filled with text, to act as prompts for the people who create the
> records; text that must be deleted or overwritten before the record becomes
> public.
> It certainly wouldn't be appropriate to use as an out-of-the-box template.
> But having that text there, and changeable, is a very handy thing.
> So what's your pleasure? You want a copy of the monster?
> Don
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Galen Charlton <mailto:
> gmc at equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The MARC templates that ship with Evergreen were last updated in 2007 and
> thus far predate RDA. I would like to see if we can ship more, and newer
> templates in Evergreen 3.0, and to that end would like to ask for your help.
>
> In particular, I'd like to know what folks doing original cataloging in
> Evergreen would want as a decent, but not necessarily overwhelming, set of
> templates.  Do we want a template for each common video format?
> Do we want AACR2 and RDA versions of the common templates? What else
> should I be asking for?
>
> I would also like to ask folks to share what custom templates they're
> using now.  If you have access to your Evergreen server, they are typically
> found in the /openils/var/templates/marc/ directory; templates can also be
> shared as MARCXML or MARC records.
>
> Regards,
>
> Galen
> --
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